Quinoxyfen Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Are we allowed to this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-general-aviation/coronavirus-covid-19-general-aviation?fbclid=IwAR0wlxkj3f06HSwKcTDPsPqNl15UQAx4DdisqiCbR-oLf4-_0MA19hZifZM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick1 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Cor blimey! Surely everyone knows by now that the way to beat cv19 (again) is by not paramotoring? Did you learn nothing last time? It was only thanks to heroic ppg pilots not flying that the NHS wasn’t overwhelmed last time. Im sure no one on here would be selfish or irresponsible enough to take advantage of a whole month of empty skies and good weather just because they had a flying machine with no identifying features that doesn’t require an airfield. Remember the well rehearsed arguments; it would bring paramotoring into disrepute (because everyone is really bothered apparently); you are certain to crash and then infect a paramedic and take up a hospital bed putting untold strain on the NHS and what else? Oh yes, travelling to your field will definitely cause someone to catch the virus. Now who could possibly fail to be convinced by these cast iron arguments? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick1 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Ps - whilst it’s clear for the gov website, it’s only ‘guidance’ that says private pilots should not fly so it’s not specifically illegal to go up. However, you may struggle to explain to a police officer (or magistrate) why the travel to the flying field is essential. Though I just can’t imagine anyone taking an interest to be honest. if you are reckless enough to fly, the only people who will notice/care will be other pilots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin (Simon W) Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Patrick1 said: Now who could possibly fail to be convinced by these cast iron arguments? My guess is more than 50% of the population lol SW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 I have read the law, not the guidance. The gov keeps putting much of the stuff it would like you to do in guidance as this stuff would not get passed into law and would be too difficult to draft eg. did you know that the law does not even say you have to scan QR codes into the NHS app?...it just says you either scan the code (into whatever app you like, like a QR code scanner) or give your details to an establishment - so now you know how to remain anonymous! I would have no problem arguing that I can do the point below as that is what the law says. The guidance is NOT enforceable and this point from the law is very helpful to us..... You can exercise or visit outdoor public places with people from your household or support bubble, or one person from another household. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrsfrwll Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 More specifically it says “d) to visit a public outdoor place for the purposes of open air recreation—“ The law is pretty clear, it’s the GA community offering guidance against that is muddying the waters 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I printed out the two parts of the law that apply, removed all the unnecessary bits and keep it in my wallet for when we meet the policeman........ Exceptions: leaving home 6.(1) Exception 1: leaving home necessary for certain purposes (2) Exception 1 is that it is reasonably necessary for the person concerned (“P”) to leave or be outside the place where P is living, (c) to take exercise outside. (d) to visit a public outdoor place for the purposes of open air recreation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 7 hours ago, AndyB said: I printed out the two parts of the law that apply, removed all the unnecessary bits and keep it in my wallet for when we meet the policeman........ Exceptions: leaving home 6.(1) Exception 1: leaving home necessary for certain purposes (2) Exception 1 is that it is reasonably necessary for the person concerned (“P”) to leave or be outside the place where P is living, (c) to take exercise outside. (d) to visit a public outdoor place for the purposes of open air recreation. open air recreation sat, if i can get past the hordes off walkers and cyclists,and horse riders,to get to the open air place,hhhhaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 There was only one half mile stretch of beach where I could go low because all the dog walkers were out. Epic flying. Zero wind to 1500' then 35 mph above that. One of the smoothest flights I've had. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 59 minutes ago, AndyB said: There was only one half mile stretch of beach where I could go low because all the dog walkers were out. Epic flying. Zero wind to 1500' then 35 mph above that. One of the smoothest flights I've had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Brezy in worcester 2day.2 morro looks ok after the fog 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 open air recreation was nice this morning.took in a lot of air.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Open air recreation was a bit bumpy this afternoon surprisingly, but very enjoyable all the same. Lots of smoke in the air, no real surprise given the date. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richjones Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 I’ve had more open air recreation in the last few days than all of October 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaatabit Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Police have been given this advice on enforcement Most significant is last slide No enforcement action for not following guidance only breaching regulations https://paas-s3-broker-prod-lon-6453d964-1d1a-432a-9260-5e0ba7d2fc51.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/2020-11/COVID-19-England-No4-Regulations.pdf 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Abaatabit said: Police have been given this advice on enforcement Most significant is last slide No enforcement action for not following guidance only breaching regulations https://paas-s3-broker-prod-lon-6453d964-1d1a-432a-9260-5e0ba7d2fc51.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/2020-11/COVID-19-England-No4-Regulations.pdf That's what I keep telling people. Only the law can be enforced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry200sx Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 04/11/2020 at 21:27, Quinoxyfen said: Are we allowed to this time? Yes we all need to maintain our engines. So we are simply testing them out after the repair we just done to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffw Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 OK OK i will do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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