outkast Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 http://www.alan-thomas.co.uk/paramotor-insurance http://www.flugschulen.at/axa/english/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 http://www.flugschulen.at/axa/english/index.html Yes, seems these insurers (underwritten by AXA) are accepting applications for liability insurance, knowing that UK registration is not required and not wanted by the CAA. Apparently they are only asking for the wing serial number and it includes rescue cover. Looks pretty good on the face of it. They also do PG, Tandem & School insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_k Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Does anyone know how big the numbers are that have got to be on your wing and motor and can you not put them on and still be insured? im doing my bhpa exam soon as our owner of the field has asked for proof of insurance, if i fail i will have to go the traffords route as a quick temporary fix as you cant re sit exam for a short period but need insurance so i can fly at the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Matt you will not fail.... Clive Passed it oh and if i can pass it anyone can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_mow Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Which field matty?? Action park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_k Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 The farmers requested it for canewdon but i think Phil at action park would like us to have insurance aswell, not a bad thing. see you when the weather breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivefreeman Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 From chili post !! Just an Update... Traffords Insurance, underwritten by Lloyds of London have clarified that currently full CAA UK registration is required for the insurance to be valid. Wing only registration is not acceptable by the underwriters, nor is it available from the CAA. This means that both the wing and power unit have to be registered as a single aircraft, the wing has to carry the registration as well as a fireproof metal plate is required to be affixed to the power unit. Full compliance with the air navigation order and Cap 523. So we seem to be between a rock and a hard place. The CAA do NOT want us to register with them, but Lloyds of London insist that Full registration is held to obtain their cover. (whether it be from the UK CAA or another EU equivalent CAA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 BHPA then!!! I really can not see what the problem is with the BHPA. Will you ever need there Insurance.... Probably NOT.. Should you Do the Exam... Why Not?? you might learn something... You get a Free Mag. Ok its more about PG but if more of us Put in articles then it wouldn't be. IF you ever want to enter a comp you now have to be BHPA... I think most pilots should enter at least one comp in there fly career. It will make you a better pilot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffw Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 So training learning to fly a paramotor is with a bhpa then, short end of the wedge if you ask me, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 So training learning to fly a paramotor is with a bhpa then, short end of the wedge if you ask me, You do NOT need to train with the bhpa. If you want insurance after you can fly then you can do the alternative entry which is a simple exam and possibly (if they wont take your log book as proof) a flight to prove you can fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outkast Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 So training learning to fly a paramotor is with a bhpa then, short end of the wedge if you ask me, You do NOT need to train with the bhpa. If you want insurance after you can fly then you can do the alternative entry which is a simple exam and possibly (if they wont take your log book as proof) a flight to prove you can fly. Pete I am just going through the process now, you have to submit the first and last entries from your log book, then to see wich exam you must sit, there are several, you must have an instructor see you fly and access your skill level. so I will be taking the "paramotoring for dummies" paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_mow Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 What I don't get is why no insurers will touch us with out conditions??? When I had my jet ski I got insured instantly with no conditions. No licensing, regulation, or registration. The ski had a number on the side but that wasn't asked for. Jet skis have a really bad reputation surrounding them and most slip ways demand third party liability insurance before you can launch. Also in the grand scheme of things you can do ALOT of damage on one of those. 350 kg doing 70mph into a nice yacht is gonna cost. My insurance coverd third party, fire and theft with a pillion and also covered when towed on the trailer all for £190 a year. And doable on monthly payments to. I can't see why no one will touch our relatively placid sport with insurance when you compare it to something like that??? Is this the right way to see it or am I simplifying it all a bit to much??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 So training learning to fly a paramotor is with a bhpa then, short end of the wedge if you ask me, You do NOT need to train with the bhpa. If you want insurance after you can fly then you can do the alternative entry which is a simple exam and possibly (if they wont take your log book as proof) a flight to prove you can fly. Pete I am just going through the process now, you have to submit the first and last entries from your log book, then to see wich exam you must sit, there are several, you must have an instructor see you fly and access your skill level. so I will be taking the "paramotoring for dummies" paper Well theres only two Dave, restricted and un restricted. Or have they brought more in now?? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 What I don't get is why no insurers will touch us with out conditions??? When I had my jet ski I got insured instantly with no conditions. No licensing, regulation, or registration. The ski had a number on the side but that wasn't asked for. Jet skis have a really bad reputation surrounding them and most slip ways demand third party liability insurance before you can launch. Also in the grand scheme of things you can do ALOT of damage on one of those. 350 kg doing 70mph into a nice yacht is gonna cost. My insurance coverd third party, fire and theft with a pillion and also covered when towed on the trailer all for £190 a year. And doable on monthly payments to. I can't see why no one will touch our relatively placid sport with insurance when you compare it to something like that??? Is this the right way to see it or am I simplifying it all a bit to much??? we dont have enough people wanting insurance to make it viable at a lower price. Think how many jet skis are out there compared to paramotors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_mow Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Ye I suppose. Didn't think of it like that. Just annoying when you think of all the sports that you can get insurance for quite easily, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffw Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Aviation liability insurance for single seated motorised paragliders all sorted,AXA versicherung AG,140euros for 1,500.000.00 cover . ps jut got all my paper work , great service! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 As posted by Dave some time ago... http://www.flugschulen.at/axa/english/index.html English text on website, underwritten and owned by AXA. Also offer Paramotor School cover Thanks for popping this one back up Geoff. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilzy Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Great people to deal with very profesional and effiencient!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_mow Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 How much peeps? And what's needed????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bholleran Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I just insured with them, they are very helpful. I emailed them the form, (Serial Number of glider needed, it is the wing that is insured i.e. anyone can fly it) And then followed up with a phone call, and paid by card over the phone. (€5 Charge for paying by card) Email of insurance arrived shortly afterwards, with a paper copy in the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffw Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 No problem simon may I thank you for all your help with insurance proplems, with out sounding a creep you are a helpfull chap, thanks mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_k Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Neilzy thought you was insured with Traffords?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivefreeman Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Yes Neil you told me you was with traffords and that you had registered your wing with them . Have you got two insurances now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asquaddie Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Is this a new version or do you still need to register with the CAA and get the letters printed on your wing? Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 No registration required. Just fill in the form and pay. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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