cambodia Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I cannot fly with ear plugs or defenders.Don,t know why but take away my hearing and I can,t co ordinate the same . The motor noise does not bother me at all when I fly but hours after packing up and going home my ears don,t half ring. Anyone else or just me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irm750 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I always use ear plugs. Had some custom moulded for me by these people - http://www.sensorcom.com/ Couldn't get on with earplugs before but these are so comfy I forget that I am wearing them. I actually bought some with channels drilled and filters inserted for shooting. I then screw monitors into them for use as earphones for radio comms or music. Best regards, Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambodia Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 Thanks Ian. Just ordered the motorsport ear plugs .Says they still let in some sound and block engine and wind noise. Let you know how I go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 All I'll say is make sure you protect your hearing. I used to shoot all the time without wearing ear protection. I got the same ringing shortly afterwards but then it went away. I wasn't that bothered until one day the ringing never went away. I went to see the specialist who told me I have tinnitus and there is no way of curing it. It's basically constant ringing in my left ear and I just have to get used to it. Boy do I wish I protected my ears. Sometimes it can take me hours to get to sleep. You have been warned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cageuk Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 All I'll say is make sure you protect your hearing. I used to shoot all the time without wearing ear protection. I got the same ringing shortly afterwards but then it went away. I wasn't that bothered until one day the ringing never went away. I went to see the specialist who told me I have tinnitus and there is no way of curing it. It's basically constant ringing in my left ear and I just have to get used to it. Boy do I wish I protected my ears. Sometimes it can take me hours to get to sleep.You have been warned! Yep agreed. I have tinnitus in my left ear, and it sometimes makes it very difficult to follow conversation on my left hand side especially in a noisy environment. I sometimes feel like a really prat having to say "pardon?". Like hammer, it sometimes plagues me at nights and it often sounds like a faint radio program playing in my head...very bizarre. Also some noises hurt my ear. I've not noticed a pattern but for instance the noise of my electric planer really hurt once but every other time has been ok! Ringing in your ears after a sustained flight sitting in front of a noisy engine is a big red warning flag. Even if you don't get on with the earplugs that you have ordered, then find something else or just get used to ear protectors of some kind. You may find it odd at first but you will eventually get used to them then wonder how you ever put up with the noise! You only get one chance with your hearing and once it's damaged it doesn't get repaired. Good luck! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggydec Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 All I'll say is make sure you protect your hearing. I used to shoot all the time without wearing ear protection. I got the same ringing shortly afterwards but then it went away. I wasn't that bothered until one day the ringing never went away. I went to see the specialist who told me I have tinnitus and there is no way of curing it. It's basically constant ringing in my left ear and I just have to get used to it. Boy do I wish I protected my ears. Sometimes it can take me hours to get to sleep.You have been warned! Ive had Tinnitus for the past 26 years , first my right ear then progressed to both. It is now so loud that it blocks out a lot of my normal hearing . I can hear the ringing over the noise of my motorcycle or paramotor . Ive learned to live with it because as Hammer says theres no cure , so be warned , Tinnitus can start after exposure to just one loud noise on just one day when least expected...maybe a drill..maybe a personal stereo...somebody shouting too loud too close , but once it starts its there for life..24/7...Take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 All I'll say is make sure you protect your hearing. I used to shoot all the time without wearing ear protection. I got the same ringing shortly afterwards but then it went away. I wasn't that bothered until one day the ringing never went away. I went to see the specialist who told me I have tinnitus and there is no way of curing it. It's basically constant ringing in my left ear and I just have to get used to it. Boy do I wish I protected my ears. Sometimes it can take me hours to get to sleep.You have been warned! Ive had Tinnitus for the past 26 years , first my right ear then progressed to both. It is now so loud that it blocks out a lot of my normal hearing . I can hear the ringing over the noise of my motorcycle or paramotor . Ive learned to live with it because as Hammer says theres no cure , so be warned , Tinnitus can start after exposure to just one loud noise on just one day when least expected...maybe a drill..maybe a personal stereo...somebody shouting too loud too close , but once it starts its there for life..24/7...Take care Can you all speak up a bit please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Not taking the p**s well may be a little I have had two hearing aids for four years now And I can tell you its not nice wearing them so use something, anything Dont go with out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambodia Posted August 21, 2009 Author Share Posted August 21, 2009 Jesus! Tinnitus sounds terrible. I,ll be wearing ear plugs from now on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Jesus! Tinnitus sounds terrible.I,ll be wearing ear plugs from now on . Good you will not regret it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Just bought a pair of Peltor Optime III ear defenders, that I am going to build into a new headset. Their passive noise reduction is fantastic, way better than my other set, and once I add the ANR rig, they should be unbeatable. I have a feeling that these form the basis for the MicroAvionics headsets, as they look very similar. If you just used a pair of ear buds inside these defenders, I would lay money on them out performing most GA headsets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 How topical, I have just heard (today) that I am to evaluate this headset (for big tin and paramotoring) for the manufacturer., tbone. I am writing up the report for The Log (BALPA), The Digital Aviator and Paramotor Magazine. It will take a while as they make custom ear inserts. No microphone required as you will see from the website, the audio comes off your skull and jawbone. They are not cheap by any means but if you need your ears, live with noise and require high quality comms - they are the dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 How topical, I have just heard (today) that I am to evaluate this headset (for big tin and paramotoring) for the manufacturer., tbone. I am writing up the report for The Log (BALPA), The Digital Aviator and Paramotor Magazine. It will take a while as they make custom ear inserts. No microphone required as you will see from the website, the audio comes off your skull and jawbone. They are not cheap by any means but if you need your ears, live with noise and require high quality comms - they are the dogs. I bought a jaw bone mike/ear peice off E- bay it works good but as I have a lowish voice it does not transmit very clear. I think it was togsie or Tony I was using it with at the flag pole a while a go? (it most have been a while ago if it was Ken ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Hi Pete, This is a bit different I think. Not made by Jawbone of course, tbone. It is reported to work really very well but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Hi Pete,This is a bit different I think. Not made by Jawbone of course, tbone. It is reported to work really very well but we'll see. I should hope so at the price difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyfreefly Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I wondered why shagy dec always texts me....... and never calls to talk......I thought he had lost the ability of speech...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Seven Hundred and Fifty Quid! Dude, that is rather a lot of money!! I think you need to consider this in your review for the Paramotor community as a HUGE negative. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asquaddie Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I bought a jaw bone mike/ear peice off E- bay it works good but as I have a lowish voice it does not transmit very clear. I think it was togsie or Tony I was using it with at the flag pole a while a go? They were beter than your memory. I think it did not suit your voice - heavy, deep and with a strong accent. Still clever thou! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) $Dollars Simon. There may be some wiggle room there as I am sure they would love to open up a new market. I have dropped Eddie a line to see if it would suit the PPG market. How much is your hearing and really good, boom-less mic comms worth? I don't think it would suit everyone but once you have tried an ACTIVE noise cancelling headset your perspectives begin to change. Perhaps the same will be true of the innovations within this tbone device. I think when we start to get people able to use radios effectively and realise the value of good comms then innovations like this and noise cancelling will really come to the fore. I will let you know after I have used it. For the airline world it looks really promising. Edited August 22, 2009 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambodia Posted August 22, 2009 Author Share Posted August 22, 2009 Quick update, Bought Alpine Moto Safe Hearing Protection,£17for motorcycle use. 1 hour flight tonight,could hear everything I needed to and no ringing in the ears when I took them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cageuk Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Excellent well done and I bet the flight was that bit more pleasant because of it Cheers Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coggie49 Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Quick update,Bought Alpine Moto Safe Hearing Protection,£17for motorcycle use. 1 hour flight tonight,could hear everything I needed to and no ringing in the ears when I took them out Where did you get them from, i wouldn't mind trying a pair of them? David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 That echo's back, is it related to the ringing (in the ears). Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambodia Posted August 24, 2009 Author Share Posted August 24, 2009 David, Got them from these guys http://www.sensorcom.com/ Ian recommended them early on in this topic. I got the motor sport ones,they also do made to measure but over £100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendmeroundthehedge Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Have a look at this. http://www.motoguide.com/tork_skull_mic.htm kev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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