Hi Jock, didn't go that far north. The furthest I went was about 3k south of Droitwich in that direction, about 215pm. Must've been someone else. Also a little misty to see that far. There were some tiny thermals from the housing estates and farm buildings. I had 200ft/min (engine off) from the clay works south of Upton. Quite good for January. Will be good for flapping today, if the viz allows. Richard.