learner_driver Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Onrisk have at this moment in time stopped Paramotor insurance. my biggest concern is theft from car ! does anyone have insurance from another supplier many thanks Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnorton Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I have just recieved (Tuesday) a letter from them saying that I am still covered and will be able to renew when the policy expires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
learner_driver Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 renewals areok but not new business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
togsie Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Apparently Onrisk have passed all of their aviation business on to a company called Haywards: http://www.haywards.net/Home/ At the moment the underwriters that they use do not cover Paramotors but they are looking to be able to provide cover within the next couple of weeks. If they decide that they can't cover us where does that leave us? Does anyone know of an alternative company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I have emailed 'Albion' the underwriter that On-Risk use, to find out if they will insure us directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I know Simon well enough to know your answer will be a big fat no. There are others playing with the idea of insuring us at the moment. Wait out and I will give more info. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Simon who? And what is his involvement with the underwriters who I think are based in South America? If he is part of On-Risk, then does he have power over the underwriters, given that O/R are just acting as brokers? Just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Simon is the Aviation underwriter (director) for Albion insurance underwriters. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommcb6016 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I have attatched a copy of the letter I received from them if anyone is interested. I may be missing something but I can't see a problem. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Simon is the Aviation underwriter (director) for Albion insurance. SW Ah, I understand. Do you not however feel that now OnRisk are moving to a different underwriter for aviation, that his reply might be tempered by the new economic climate? Or is the small amount of business that we generate just not worth the hassle to cover us? Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
learner_driver Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 Hi Tom Its ok if you have insurance already. I don't and need it next week as will have kit in a Van. Uninsured. which makes me want to sleep with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 which makes me want to sleep with it I felt like that for the first twelve months too. The missus complained though, cos I wanted to do it in the house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Yes its fair to say that Albion and On-Risk seem to have parted company. Simon is in effect no longer a contact who will give impartial information. As the letter above shows an example of, there are a (few) underwriters looking for the entire 'book of business' so were not just talking Paramotors here, were talking boats, and GA but it includes us as a part of that book of business. As it happens, Paramotor insurance for On-Risk with the old underwriters (and there fore any new underwriter) has been profitable business and if possible, will continue to exist. If not, then I will set up an insurance company for Paramotors. (not a joke) SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_6095 Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 How annoying - I was about to apply for insurance. Looks like I missed the boat with On Risk. I am after 3rd party liability insurance only (have personal accident and can get the kit covered on a different policy). If anyone finds a good deal I would be interested. Who underwrites the BHPA liability insurance? Must be quite reasonable if they give it away with their membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Hi TomIts ok if you have insurance already. I don't and need it next week as will have kit in a Van. Uninsured. which makes me want to sleep with it Dude, think (covert) PLEASE don't tell the world you have your kit in your van!!!! Look what happend to Pete B!! You remove yours, and I will remove this one SW Best tip I've seen if you leave a wing in a vehicle, is don't bag it up. Let's the air circulate, and can you imagine trying to do a runner with it like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilzy Posted May 4, 2010 Share Posted May 4, 2010 Hi all, I spoke to Onrisk and the passed me onto Haywards who at first said they couldn't cover me, i then phoned again and spoke to a nice lady who told me they are doing insurance for Paramotors bt didn't have a clue what the were dealing with. But if i were to send my schedule from Onrisk to them they would match the policy, not only that they would charge what i paid for it last year Result i think. they were in process of getting all the paperwork together to clear up all the confusion so by now i would imagine its all sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyopteryx Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 I'd be curious to know if anyone has got anywhere with Hayward Aviation Ltd?. My insurance with Onrisk ends on 15th May and I received a form from Hayward for a quotation which I sent back to them 2 weeks ago. I have had no reply back whatosever and when I phoned them 20 minutes ago I was told they had no market for it. As from Sunday I have no insurance - marvellous!. Is anybody insured with any other company?. Cheers, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnorton Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Airsports Insurance Bureau Ltd offer PPG insurance, they seem to be linked to the BHPA but say you do not need BHPA membership to get cover. 01983 298480 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilzy Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Hi i got a quote from Haywards today and its not that bad they asked for my schedule from Onrisk and matched it you have to speak to Vroni and she is very helpful, they emailed my certificate and said they are looking to improve things asap. basically they had the paramotor insurance dropped on them and have very little idea of what they are doing but they seem to be geeting to grips with it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilzy Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Sorry folks i just been set straight i thought i was talking to Haywards but i was actually talking to Joint Aviation re my insurance any way they have sorted insurance for me and at a reasonable cost so anyone intereasted they can be reached on 0142088664 and Vroni or Wendy are the girls to talk to, hope this helps. Neilzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paramotormike Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 You might want to check if you get 1 or 2 million pounds of 3rd party cover. If you ever want to try any competitions, some need 2 million £ of cover! Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 You might want to check if you get 1 or 2 million pounds of 3rd party cover. If you ever want to try any competitions, some need 2 million £ of cover! Mike. They will like for like the cover that On-Risk had in place. All the flapping about insurance at the moment is not required... There are at least 2 companies fighting for the business at the moment not including the bhpa who are clearly interested in recent events. Give it a small amount of time and the future will be Bright, brighter than ever before. I am 99% sure of it. There is LOADS going on at the moment and all of it looks good FOR EVERYONE, I wish i could say more but there will be people out there who want to make things hard for me doing what I am trying to do so I am keeping under my hat until the fat lady sings. Please don't start asking me questions about this as at the moment I can't give you any answers.... Sorry I know that's poo... but it's for the long term best FOR EVERYONE for sure. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignos Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 whats going on Simon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 .........bring on the fat lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatix Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 OK, until Simon can start singing can anyone post some specifics on what they are currently being offered for cover / premium ? So far I've been assuming my BHPA membership covers me for 3rd party liability (but probably little else) - so what are you getting from these other companies ? Theft cover, accidental damage, competitions, UK & abroad, private medical cover / repatriation, loss of earnings or something else ? It would be great to know what is available or see a sample policy document and ballpark price before I start phoning around. Cheers, Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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