dmh Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Nearly getting to that day when feet will leave the ground so thinking ahead..... At the moment I have to dismantle my MAcro to take it to the training ground, cage, props etc for it to fit into my Landy. So I am thinking.... do I get a rack to go on the back? I have seen threads on here proposing various models but they will struggle to fit on the rear of my Landrover Defender with the tyre overhang. So I am now thinking, maybe get a box trailer off ebay (c £500) and fit it out to hold the macro made up, my wing, windsock etc etc. It will be protected from the elements, from prying eyes and can remain all made up ready to fly.... Has anyone done this? Any recommendations or ideas?!http://www.paramotorclub.org/forum/posting.php?mode=post&f=1# Cheers MArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irm750 Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 If you go for a trailer then please apply some serious security to it, or some thieving scumbag will have the beneift of all of your flying gear (and a £500 trailer) in one easy to nick package! Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 £500 is a big lump of money just to save a few mins clipping a cage together and bolting a prop on. My motor travels in the boot and does not take long to assemble at the flying field, even the reserve only takes a couple of mins to strap on. One bonus of putting it together each time is you are able to give it a nice pre-flight check (and post-flight) wheras if you dump it back in the trailer it would be too easy to overlook a loose bolt or cracked mount. All that aside, I do like the idea of storing it whole in a trailer, just attaching it to the towbar whenever you need a fly knowing it's all there ready to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_dunn Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Seems a shame that a relativley big vehicle such as a Landrover cant accomodate a paramotor..... Taking the cage off is accepable, i guess.... but be careful if you need to remove the prop every time. Are you aware that the nylock nuts should be replaced after approx 4 cycles??? some people only use them once.... Used to have a LR Discovery too.... same problem, big vehicle, no room inside. Moved to a Renault Kangoo Trekka, and buckets of room inside- H&E R120/99 can fit inside without folding the rear seats!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I have a disco (well 2 in fact with the new 4L V8i Petrol) I also have a 9ft box trailer (for sale!, min £650 though) The box trailer is great, i had it fitted with a full size single mattress, 240 inverter with leisure battery, heater, extractor fan, sink, and water tank... and it works perfectly for fly-ins and so on, no tent required, park up and fly. I never leave kit in it over night, although I am sure it would be fine. There are alarms and locks you can get (its no different than leaving a motorbike outside your house) SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 That said, I regularly have a compact (cage fitted) a Macro (cage removed) 4 wings, a petrol can, 4 harnesses, a load of helmets, radios and so on.. And I still have my seats up! If you cant fit a paramotor and a wing into a disco you have a problem!! SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macey2kk Posted April 29, 2010 Share Posted April 29, 2010 if your macro has the 3 blade prop...perhaps consider changing to a 2 blade...you should slide that in alot better without removing the prop, then only have to remove the cage.. you would need a different reduction drive tho....still cheaper than a trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmh Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 Useful stuff, I didn't realise that nylocks were only supposed to be used 4 times...... I am currently removing my prop every time:-( Take the point re pre flight checks but I would do that anyway, just putting less stress on the whole rig if it's permanently made up I guess. It is a bit daft that it won't fit into a landy but it doesn't and I need the landy for work so no change there Can you PM me some pix of the trailer Simon? Also dimensions internally and externally and any other spec you have, age/make etc It may be the answer! (after a bit of haggling....) Cheers! mk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 So how many of you would be interested in a quick release system for your prop ie undo one nut or pull a pin out to remove the whole prop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdoc Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Me for one Pete!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paramotormike Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Try this http://www.baileyaviation.com/thor.html After clicking on gallery (top right), check out picture bottom left on this page. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macey2kk Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 So how many of you would be interested in a quick release system for your prop ie undo one nut or pull a pin out to remove the whole prop. me too!!!...very interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macey2kk Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 So how many of you would be interested in a quick release system for your prop ie undo one nut or pull a pin out to remove the whole prop. me too!!!...very interested pete...if you do come up with something....and im pretty sure that the logistics of design would mean that you would do this anyway.... but think about including some sort of spacing backplate to fit on the reduction drive...this would move the prop away from the starter and exhaust a bit and save some people using those rubber mounty things. ( technical term ) keep us posted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_dunn Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 So how many of you would be interested in a quick release system for your prop ie undo one nut or pull a pin out to remove the whole prop. On the H&E machines- id prefer to remove the 'combined gearbox and prop' unit as opposed to removing the prop. It's 3 bolts versus 4, and generally the gearbox nuts are under a lot less pressure than the prop. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilc Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Useful stuff, I didn't realise that nylocks were only supposed to be used 4 times...... I am currently removing my prop every time:-(Take the point re pre flight checks but I would do that anyway, just putting less stress on the whole rig if it's permanently made up I guess. It is a bit daft that it won't fit into a landy but it doesn't and I need the landy for work so no change there Can you PM me some pix of the trailer Simon? Also dimensions internally and externally and any other spec you have, age/make etc It may be the answer! (after a bit of haggling....) Cheers! mk Never seen any type of nylock nut on a Macro prop ?.......... Mine has the standard round ally plate, 3" allen key bolts with flat and spring washers......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmh Posted April 30, 2010 Author Share Posted April 30, 2010 and do you know what? My macro hasn't got them either! Relief I had assumed somewhat mistakenly as a novice that they all were! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Out of the factory they should be as per Neil C's description. If you have a Parajet (and studs) as apposed to holes for bolts to go into... that would be very strange and NON standard. Nylock nuts are not ideal for props if they are removed after each flight. Send some pics in.... SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Nearly getting to that day when feet will leave the ground so thinking ahead..... At the moment I have to dismantle my MAcro to take it to the training ground, cage, props etc for it to fit into my Landy. Hi Mark, the Thule backrack has a removable 'A' frame almost directly above the tow ball, which you would normally use for support and anchorage. On my Ford Maverick (Nissan Terrano) all I did was dispensed with the 'A' frame and used a ratchet strap round the spare wheel, plus another to the trailing edge of the rack. If you're lucky, you won't even need to pad the spare, as the tyre makes a brill shock mounting for the motor. Not sure, but I think the Thule is larger in the fore aft direction than the other well praised brand on here, so plenty of space to work with. If you'd like, I'll do some measuring tomorrow. and could perhaps do a pic or two. Phil Phil Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 ........Phil Phil Phil Is this a byproduct of the medication Phil Can I have some Cheers, Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Unfortunately it's the result of NO medication! Been off all my pain killers since Monday trying to get this damned monkey off my back (over 3 years of opiates). Almost total insomnia at the mo, check out the times of some of my postings I've had the full spread of withdrawal symptoms including mild hallucinations, so I might have just been hearing an echo...echo...echo... Last night it got VERY silly when I was considering cranking over my motor in a very crowded utility room (I didn't). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmh Posted May 1, 2010 Author Share Posted May 1, 2010 Hi Phil Yes be really useful to have some measurements and pics. the rear wheel on my 110 defender overhangs a long way though as it is a massive tyre... Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I have one of the bailey v3 motors with a quick release prop it take seconds to put on and take off... http://www.baileyaviation.com/News_QR_prop.html I dont know why other paramotor companies dont do one???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdoc Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Unfortunately they are not willing to sell it to anyone who doesn't own a bailey machine.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Hence pete's question I suspect. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdoc Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Well, if he knows where to get one, or wants to make some up himself, then put me down as interested... Cheers Does the above emoticon remind anyone from the France trip of anything in particular? Must not do 360s. Must not do 360s. Must not do 360s. Must not do 360s. S Bends next time. S Bends next time. S Bends next time. S Bends next time. ........................ still doing my lines.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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