stuartasutherland Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Just spotted this on Twitter. http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/503/CAA%20Pro ... elease.pdf Last page shows a fine issued to a PPG pilot low flying over a beach. Bloody unlucky for someone to report him. I'll be considering this a bit more carefully as I fly down a beach waving to people. Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 And heres his video to prove it [youtubevideo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNVq7bAH1Hk[/youtubevideo] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivefreeman Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 It does not mention that the guy that took the photo also entered it in a competition and apparently won it !! As soon as Peter found out he went straight to the local authority and said it was him, and in his own country its legal. So fair play for handing himself in !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_k Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Dont know what all the fuss is about, i stole a little boys 99 while flying low along the seafront the other day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outkast Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Dont know what all the fuss is about, i stole a little boys 99 while flying low along the seafront the other day That was you was it, you owe me one 99, with sprinkles too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 'thought he could fly as low as he liked because European laws did not apply' What sort of dork is he He should have realised the British take Brussels edicts way too seriously, unlike some of the European couterparts Cheers, Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_dunn Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Fair play for handing himself in... but he was breaking the law and deserved it in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 What's more interesting about this is..... This is the first (to my knowledge) PPG related 'offence' that I can remember.... ???? As numbers increase I suppose this type of report / offene will.....Hope not of course. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer_Dave Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Very true Alan. The Germans make them. We English gold plate them. Spanish break them and the Italians don't even read them. (rules) But the minority have felt this would happen sooner or later. Easy to say "it wont happen, the CAA have got bigger fish to fry. They won't bother with us." Now let me think. Who said that ? Any takers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_dunn Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Everyone knows the law, and occasionally they are tempted to do things that they know they shouldn't be.... I belive it does no harm to fly low on a beach- as long as you obey the 500ft from any person, vehicle or vessel aspect.... If you fly close to people, the chances are you are going to annoy them... or scare them in some way and a complaint will be lodged. The police/CAA probably won't act unless a formal complaint has been lodged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivefreeman Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Dont know what all the fuss is about, i stole a little boys 99 while flying low along the seafront the other day your so out of order.. You could of got ice cream all over that nice new GTR !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dede2008 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Mmm watch out now and make sure you takeoff and land well above 500ft as your fellow pilot's snapshots and videos of you flying over their heads ending up online can be the next target of CAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Very true Alan. The Germans make them. We English gold plate them. Spanish break them and the Italians don't even read them. (rules) But the minority have felt this would happen sooner or later. Easy to say "it wont happen, the CAA have got bigger fish to fry. They won't bother with us." Now let me think. Who said that ? Any takers ? Dave, I think it was a 'Majority' that knew that at some point in time someone would get nicked for a flying related incident. And actually, I have always believed that the police / CAA would respond to an official complaint if made (they have too) The point is, as far as I am aware, this is the first time it's happened. This is of course in it's self not a good thing. But the numbers are still WAY WAY too small for the CAA to be 'policing' us as a sports aviators. In any walk of life, if you break a law and get caught doing it.... I guess your going to get nicked. There is no special law for Paramotor Pilots and I for one am not at all surprised to see this happen. Most have broken the 500ft rule at some point, this guy was unlucky and got caught. Assuming people are now taking pictures and sending them to the police and the CAA expect more people to get nicked (for breaking the law) All seems very normal to me? SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Common sense should prevail here. No problem breaking the 500 foot rule, we all go that little bit faster than the speed limit in our cars/bikes BUT we dont do it when there are police with speed cameras around. So think of people as police with speed cameras and don't do it if they are around. I am sure that you can find a nice place to go foot dragging with no one to show off to, or is that why you do it??. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_dunn Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Just spotted some of the older records from the CAA - someone was done for 'Crossing international FIR boundary without filing a Flight Plan'.... fine £12000, compensaton £5000 and costs £781.... Does this apply to PPG also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Thats a very good question. You can't file a flight plan without a G number but every G number aircraft HAS to file a flight plan to cross international borders, and can be called to land at a customs airfield!!! Hummm....... SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 That's an interesting question Gordon. The CAA publications state that the FIR covers ground level to 24500 feet. Cheers, Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richwill15 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I've seen posts relating to channel crossing to France from the UK. A flight plan was filed by phone and the G-reference was given as "G-XXXX" with details relating to a foot launched paramotor. This was apparently accepted by the French authorities and the fileplan was later closed when the crossing was complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_dunn Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yes- I definitely need to check this out as I'm well within flying distace (21miles) of the Scottish FIR boundary with Ireland.... to further complicate matters the FIR boundary dosen't follow the land border.... and some large areas of Northern Ireland fall within Irish FIR (South Fermanagh) and some large areas of Ireland fall within the Scottish FIR (North Monaghan). I guess there is nothing stopping you from landing and walking across the border if this is a problem.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_dunn Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I've opened a separate thread in the 'Ulster section'- hopefully we'll follow this up with a conclusion. viewtopic.php?f=36&t=8134 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_dunn Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Just spotted some of the older records from the CAA - someone was done for 'Crossing international FIR boundary without filing a Flight Plan'.... fine £12000, compensaton £5000 and costs £781.... Does this apply to PPG also? Also £500 fine for false entries in a personal log book.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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