Guest Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 It's the day where I load up the van ready for the summer fly-in! I am driving up later this evening so that I can get an early start on the set up in the morning. Can't wait to see as many of you as possible ! Friday and Sunday look like great weather for it, but don't miss the Saturday night :-) SEE YOU THERE SOON! SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptwizz Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The forecast is suggesting I might make better use of the weekend in my workshop: I see Friday being thermic and uncomfortable for a low hours pilot such as myself. Saturday and Sunday wet. I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilzy Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Pete No lol come and have some fun!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keving9464 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hi Simon, see you there tomorrow afternoon, hopefully get an early evening flight in my bud Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsquared Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I hope everyone has a fantastic time......from those of us who can't make it. Please take lots of photos and videos (even non-flying will be appreciated). Cheers. Have Fun! Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptwizz Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Sorry people. If I had less backlog of workshop stuff I would have come. Hope you all have a good weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 We had about 50% turn out which was still about 60 people so it was all good :-) Don't miss next years which will be LOADS better since hooking up with local suppliers of stuff, like live music, and a very well priced bar on site and so on... (maybe even some heli joy rides) :-) Lesson to learn from this one... DONT PLAN YOUR WEEKEND AROUND THE WEATHER!!! And DONT hire the Giant Scalextric! (it was so poo, I sent him home again.) The people who decided against it because of the weather missed 3 flyable days!! SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 And a good chilled out party vibe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbirdyxx Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Taken from a Facebook Page... Following this weekends PMC paramotor fly in i would like to thank the majority of pilots for respecting air law and the restricted areas not to fly over. To the minority who i spent yesterday dealing with the police and fuming farmers and other local residents you are the reason the PMC will not be holding another fly in from this same venue. Why with such beautiful open countryside to explore do you have to fly round and round the same field for hours on end just upsetting the local community !!! I am packing the van for the fly-in! ......... for the last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Simon Payne is the drama queen that actually called the Police. And we talked alot with the Police about Paramotoring and that was about it. After I had spoken to the Police and the Land Owner and the Local land lady, EVERYONE was more than happy (Except Simon) As always in this sport, someone had to go out of the way to spoil it intentionally. The proof is in the pudding isn't it? We have already been offered another field locally by the Land Lady who of course has many contacts in the area. She had even spoken to a local councillor about fireworks again for next year and the village is/was keen. Don't believe everything you read on facebook Especially if you were not even there on the day. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Just off the phone to the existing land owner. It seems he is more than happy to have us back with a couple of very simple conditions :-) That's 3 fields we now have the option to use SW Sent from my iPhone using PMC Forum mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outkast Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Taken from a Facebook Page...Following this weekends PMC paramotor fly in i would like to thank the majority of pilots for respecting air law and the restricted areas not to fly over. To the minority who i spent yesterday dealing with the police and fuming farmers and other local residents you are the reason the PMC will not be holding another fly in from this same venue. Why with such beautiful open countryside to explore do you have to fly round and round the same field for hours on end just upsetting the local community !!! I am packing the van for the fly-in! ......... for the last time was Nielzy involved, hes got from lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 LOL Not this time dude. In fact all I saw him do at the Fly-in was fly and help other people with various stuff. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardc Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It is unlike me to get involved in petty squabbling on any forum as I am happy to try and get on with everybody but this thread is really getting to me at the moment. Firstly, I was at the fly in all 3 days, on and off, and I popped in to see Simon Payne on my way home as I drive past his field. The inference that he called the police is total rubbish. The police popped over to his field (as they often do to watch the paramotoring) thinking the complaints were about his paramotorists and were told about the fly in so they popped down to check it out. No big deal! The house owner with the pool that was next to the field people were messing about in had asked to be listed as a 'no fly zone' but this information was not relayed to the pilots causing him to turn up at Simon Paynes field in a very unhappy state. This was not good as Simon runs his school from there and, quite rightly, does not need to annoy this man any more than he already has. On a final note what is it about having a fly in at Tetsworth? I have been on the PMC site for a few years now and, to the best of my knowledge, we have had 6 fly-ins. 1 with Pete in Gloucestershire, 1 with Pete at Silverstone and the other 4 within 7.5 miles of Thame where Simon Payne runs his school. Why is there an obsession with having it in my back yard.? Why not annoy somebody elses neighbours for a change and give us a break? Why not have one at Membury, or is it okay to screw up other peoples flying sites but not your own? I would have been happier, and so would SP, if our local knowledge and restriction were taken into account but that was not the case. Sorry about the rant but this is a big country and it seems that the PMC is out to screw up our flying sites and has no consideration for the local pilots. EC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 It is unlike me to get involved in petty squabbling on any forum as I am happy to try and get on with everybody but this thread is really getting to me at the moment.Firstly, I was at the fly in all 3 days, on and off, and I popped in to see Simon Payne on my way home as I drive past his field. The inference that he called the police is total rubbish. The police popped over to his field (as they often do to watch the paramotoring) thinking the complaints were about his paramotorists and were told about the fly in so they popped down to check it out. No big deal! The house owner with the pool that was next to the field people were messing about in had asked to be listed as a 'no fly zone' but this information was not relayed to the pilots causing him to turn up at Simon Paynes field in a very unhappy state. This was not good as Simon runs his school from there and, quite rightly, does not need to annoy this man any more than he already has. On a final note what is it about having a fly in at Tetsworth? I have been on the PMC site for a few years now and, to the best of my knowledge, we have had 6 fly-ins. 1 with Pete in Gloucestershire, 1 with Pete at Silverstone and the other 4 within 7.5 miles of Thame where Simon Payne runs his school. Why is there an obsession with having it in my back yard.? Why not annoy somebody elses neighbours for a change and give us a break? Why not have one at Membury, or is it okay to screw up other peoples flying sites but not your own? I would have been happier, and so would SP, if our local knowledge and restriction were taken into account but that was not the case. Sorry about the rant but this is a big country and it seems that the PMC is out to screw up our flying sites and has no consideration for the local pilots. EC Hi Eddie Was Simon/organizer made aware of the no fly zone? (you can't blame him/them if one/some pilots break the rules.) You can discuse it with them after. "does not need to annoy this man any more than he already has" So simon Payne has already annoyed him then? Tetsworth is a more or less a central location for most pilots. The Silverstone site is always fully booked now through the summer as its near the race circuit. The field we used down here has horses in it as do a lot due to the amount of money they pay, But I am working on finding another. Membury is a LIVE airfield. As far as I know ALL of your local knowledge and restriction were taken into account AND passed on to all the people at the fly-in weather they were flying or not WHY o why would anyone want to screw up any flying sites that offers such nice areas to fly in, and in the process make it harder to find somewhere else the following year. This is how I see it from my point of view. It was nice to see ya after so long Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Ed, that's rubbish as far as I am concerned. We have not messed anything up for anyone. The only site we are not allowed back too from our fly-ins in fact is the one that has the pool in the garden... and that's because we jumped in to it! (which is fair enough I suppose ) At the end of the day, even if there was a pissed of person, that's what talking to people is for. In aviation it happens all the time, its not just Paramotors of course. Its a part of aviation that people WILL complain, more so when a group of people want to get together and fly and more so when the person making the complaint has no idea of the air law. Ref: your back door, its because its nice and central for everyone. (please don't take it personally) I am getting some nuts conflicting information on this minor incident, but all come back to the same thing... Simon Payne was the person trying to escalate the situation. We have been invited back to the field which I think proves that much of what he is suggesting and you are jumping in to back up has been exaggerated upon and escalated for no rhyme or reason. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 seems the pmc reply i posted on facebook got removed,broke f/b rules,how strange,someone must have had your reply removed simon..lol freedom of speech dont work for some////// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Seems that I now have no facebook account LOL EDIT: I do still have an account, I was just told off for my post about Simon Payne. Called the Police on me again! lolololol SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Guess the truth was starting to become obvious. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardc Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Pete You are wrong about the local knowledge being passed on. I wasn't asked and I am not prepared to answer on behalf of SP. Needless to say, if you have a paramotor school 1/2 mile away and local pilots with flying fields attending it would be a good idea to check! I asked about the stud farm East of Tetsworth and was told '500ft rule applies. It seems the horses in Membury are more important than the ones in Tetsworth! It was great to see you and all the others but a bit of cooperation and consideration would have been a better way forward. It seems that nobody is going to 'build a bridge and get over it' as I read recently and would rather keep this squabbling going so I guess this will be my last post if it gets on the site. Blue Skies Eddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 500 foot rule applies everywhere Ed. Lets put it to bed now as lifes to short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Actually, just as a side matter... It's worth knowing that the 500ft rule does not actually apply to livestock. So forgive me for telling everyone to apply the 500ft rule to avoid that area when legally it was not required. Thanks for bringing it up. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardc Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 You are right Pete life is too short but Simon has to have the last word! I was assuming the rule applied because there would be people at the stud farm as well, but we all know what assuming does I am obviously not getting my point across so I will make it clearer: It is not enough to quote CAA rules (and to assume that all pilots actually know them!) we need to be more considerate and a bit more professional in what we do and use common sense as well. That is all I am trying to say. This is a small community and it is a shame if we can't all get along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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