poz Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'm interested to find out what sort of climb rates pilots are getting with their equipment. Engine/wing (inc size) combination and all up pilot weight. I'm on a PAP PA125 with Revo2 26m at about 128kg launch weight + fuel, and I'm getting around 1.5m/s or about 300f/min. I love the idea of going up at around 1000ft/min (5m/s) to altitudes in excess of 10000ft, taking around 10 minutes to achieve this. I could never afford to fly a fixed wing aircraft that could manage this. My old Cessna 150 could manage a little more than 300ft/min, but not much, and that would die off at around 4000ft. To this end, PAP are making me a PPG with a Polini Thor 200 . I'm going to stick with my Revo2 for the time being. Will report back as soon as I get to test it out. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiosity Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Shocking how poor the Cessna is. A C42 will do 1050 ft/min, but that's no use to you. I wonder what Simon's Jabiru will do. That must be pretty good too. Of course, none of this is remotely relevant to paramotoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Food for thought.... PG pilots are regularly getting 1000ft pm in thermals alone. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poz Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Shocking how poor the Cessna is. A C42 will do 1050 ft/min, but that's no use to you. I wonder what Simon's Jabiru will do. That must be pretty good too. Of course, none of this is remotely relevant to paramotoring. It's shocking how much 3 axis microlights have come on in recent years....and their price. One things for sure though, Cessna will never dominate this side of GA again. They had their day in the 60's and 70's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poz Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 i fly a thor200 with an ozone speedster 30, pilot weight approx 100kg and can climb out at 800ft/min no problem,i generally only use this on initial take off and climb out though and once at a safe height and in the seat i back off to 400 ft/min.... Thanks Stickygrape, that's exactly what I was looking for. It's funny that you back off to 100ft/min more than I can climb flat out If you are 100kg, 15kg more than me, and you're getting 800ft/min, then maybe a sustained 1000ft/min climb is attainable. Can't wait to find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartasutherland Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 470fpm on my new Zenith Thor 200 and Synth 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 There is nothing better than your Vario screening at you going 10+ up with the engine off I get around 250 300 fpm on my 26m speedster and V5 about 200fpm|? on my 24m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poz Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 470fpm on my new Zenith Thor 200 and Synth 34 That's strange, stickygrape's getting nearly twice the climb rate with the same engine What d'you weigh Stuart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieranp Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 1.7 to 2 m/s on baily v5 and up kantega. Pilot weight 110k so all up weight with wing tandem reserve and kit around 150k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartasutherland Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 470fpm on my new Zenith Thor 200 and Synth 34 That's strange, stickygrape's getting nearly twice the climb rate with the same engine What d'you weigh Stuart? 100kg, perhaps 105 with reserve and helmet. Engine still new so I might get a bit more later but not much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 It will be down to the wing!!! buy a speedster Nucleon or GTR or GTX and you wil get a much better climb rate. Get rid of the sluggy synth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 i fly a thor200 with an ozone speedster 30, pilot weight approx 100kg and can climb out at 800ft/min no problem,i generally only use this on initial take off and climb out though and once at a safe height and in the seat i back off to 400 ft/min.... Hey Sticky You need to drop a couple of wing sizes if your getting 800fpm com and try a 26m or the 24m. I have dropped down two wing sizes from a 28-26 now on the 24m my fue eco has not changed to much my climb rate has only dropped a bit 50-100fpm. but the handling and speed has improved 10 fold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartasutherland Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 It will be down to the wing!!! buy a speedster Nucleon or GTR or GTX and you wil get a much better climb rate. Get rid of the sluggy synth Morgy, I know! But I've just bought a Zenith so it might take me a while to build up the courage to ask the wife! The Synth is fine really, nobody I've flown with is faster, launch is easy. It is very docile though and I would like a bit more fun (I think?). I'm also at the bottom of the weight range so I would like a smaller wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfergus Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I watched Felix Baumgartner's skydiving altitude record documentary last night. It looked very lonely at 128,000ft. However at the start of the ascent the helium ballon was only achieving 1200ft / min. You wouldn't be far behing him sticky I always choose my wing size by being able to fly level on full throttle, trimmers fully out + full speedbar. That tends to give me a climb rate of 350ft / min with trimmers in & full throttle on my current Speedster 28 and very responsive handling on the tip steering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Whilst on a paramotoring holiday with Sticky I had the pleasure of flying a Zenith with the pollini Thor and wow what a powerful machine they are. With my Fusion wing in full reflex it climbed incredibly well also when you are just pottering around you hardly have to touch the throttle making it very quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dede2008 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I get a 2.7-3.0 m/s rate max (don't know how that translates to fpm, not my unit sorry on a miniplane top 80 with a 26 Epsilon 6 wing. My weight is 70kg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 i fly a thor200 with an ozone speedster 30, pilot weight approx 100kg and can climb out at 800ft/min no problem,i generally only use this on initial take off and climb out though and once at a safe height and in the seat i back off to 400 ft/min.... Hey Sticky You need to drop a couple of wing sizes if your getting 800fpm com and try a 26m or the 24m. I have dropped down two wing sizes from a 28-26 now on the 24m my fue eco has not changed to much my climb rate has only dropped a bit 50-100fpm. but the handling and speed has improved 10 fold yes its been on my mind for a while, just can't bear to spend the money cos i'm a tight arse northerner.... when its due for replacement a 26 is on the cards. couldn't quite catch the vario on the full 8up cos i was spiralling upwards like my arse was on fire but you get the idea.... If you like to throw it around i would go for the 24m if i was you!!! You have the power. At least have a demo before you buy a 26m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurfBird Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I'm 105kg counting everything but the wing and flying a Revo2 23m, Air Conception Ultra 130 with 125cm prop. I average about 400 ft/min with my normal take-off trim of -1 to the slow side. I keep meaning to check things like speed and climb at different settings but seem to always forget to do it. Guess I'm having too much fun to remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom-vince Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Im 85kg with 22kg AirConception Moster and a Paramania GTR 24 = 650fpm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurfBird Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Just checked my climb with the new 130cm Helix prop. Trim set to near full slow (-4) I got just over 550 fpm. I think that equals about 2.8 m/s. More than adequate for my needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Which android tablets have a barometer sensor to measure height and a sim card slot to use as a normal 4G device in the air? I can't seem to find the answer anywhere, even after visiting PC world and doing a few google searches. My S8 Samsung phone can do the lot, but the screen is a bit small for Skydemon. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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