andrei_nath Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Currently I am flying a speedster 1 24m with a moster 185 plus at an overall weight 115-118kg. I fly XC. interested in upgrading the wing with the 2 from the title. I love the speedster but I would like to go to a smaller wing 18-20m. out of experience if possible, what could be the wins if I go with the hadron xx? it's a wildhorse, I know, but please a feedback from XC point of view. Acro is only nice to have... not the main switch reason :). The stability I need, a friend has a snake xx and it's not that stable in flight(with activity) and needs to stop the roll when it happens otherwise it amplifies. in the end, does is make sence to force on a "more demanding glider" or same results from fuel economy+speeds can be achieved with a more docile wing like speedster 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 You could go with a Report'Air, it's fast and efficient, depending on trimmer setting. Stable when hands off but dynamic when you want it to be. Can you tell I like mine? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas_whitmore Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Agree with Alan’ love my 24 rap” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 You can not compare these two wings as they both sit in different categories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCA Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Well I have a friend who has one of each a hadron and speedster he fly the hadron all the time I will say like 8 out of 10 times he fly the hadron he love it ,ho does fly to a report air and I can tell you this is the easy take off wing I have ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrei_nath Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 On 28/08/2018 at 20:52, Mark Morgan said: You can not compare these two wings as they both sit in different categories agree with you, but from fuel economy and stability it should be possible. it's clear the xx is a more demanding wing, no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Morgan Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 12 hours ago, andrei_nath said: agree with you, but from fuel economy and stability it should be possible. it's clear the xx is a more demanding wing, no doubt Hadron xx and Viper 4 would be roughly the same eco, Speedster will be higher burn.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMen Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Hadron XX is aimed towards a totally different purpose and skill level from a Speedster 2. If the level of knowledge isn’t aware of this already then you are not ready for a comp wing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Hadron XX is a demanding wing which is not going to alow you to make any mistakes, I fly cross country, using quite fast SkyParagliders Zorro 24 with top speed of 41mph. Have 300+ hours and I have 82 hours this year so far (Jan - Nov), sometimes under rough conditions. And I am NOT ready as a pilot to go for Hadron XX PS (!) Important (!) Hadron XX is a completely different wing from Hadron, please do not confuse these two wings. They have nothing in common but the name. PPS In my oppinion you have to have 100+ hours a year to go for Hadron XX otherwise it will end up badly sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vauxscott Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I've recently gone from a Speedster 1 to a Hadron XX. I'm a 300+ hour pilot but don't consider myself an acro pilot. I found the step fairly large but if you give the wing the respect it deserves its not a scary thing to fly. You have to be extremely proficient in ground handling with this wing though, its very twitchy on the ground and can be difficult to launch. Plenty good pilots have caught lines in the prop with this wing! For XC it is an excellent choice, due to the speed and efficiency. Ive flown mine in very rough air and I didn't see as much as a tip come in. I did get chucked around a bit more than I would on the speedster though and active flying is a must. Everyone develops at different speeds, but I think if you feel the XX is "forcing on" your development then it is not the right wing for you. I found the Speedster to be pretty slow, there are much better options available for XC. Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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