Richard1910 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I posted something similar a week or so ago but got no replies so i'll give it another go! Can anybody tell me how i can mount a video camera on my Motor or wing so i can get some good video shots with me (the pilot) in the shot, i have seen pictures and video evidence from what looks like some kind of rod or stick, if this is the case how does this work? Does anyone have any ideas i can try? Please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I posted something similar a week or so ago but got no replies so i'll give it another go! Can anybody tell me how i can mount a video camera on my Motor or wing so i can get some good video shots with me (the pilot) in the shot, i have seen pictures and video evidence from what looks like some kind of rod or stick, if this is the case how does this work? Does anyone have any ideas i can try? Please Hi Richard, saw your question last time but didnt feel qualified to reply But, if any help, I use a monopod available at Dixon's etc for cameras so it has the right screw thread to fix most cameras to. Extends from 1 foot to about 4 feet. I fix the small digital camera so it is pointing back down the pod. I press the delay button on the camera and let the monpod extend to its limit under gravity then lift it so the monopod is horizontal in time for me and my tandem passenger to say cheese. Its crude but you get a good head shot of the pilot(s) and I try and do it on a turn so you get some of the wing and the ground in the background. I suppose if your camera did video you could do the same thing for short clips. This is on free flying tandem. I imagine it would be too much of a fiddle to do that on a solo paramotor with throttle etc in one hand? anyway.......monpod from Jessop'sor Dixon's or any camera shop for about 10 or 15 quid I think. Oh and I tie a line to the camera too!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerlord Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I posted something similar a week or so ago but got no replies so i'll give it another go! Can anybody tell me how i can mount a video camera on my Motor or wing so i can get some good video shots with me (the pilot) in the shot, i have seen pictures and video evidence from what looks like some kind of rod or stick, if this is the case how does this work? Does anyone have any ideas i can try? Please I wonder if you might be talking about my videos. Like the deepdale one ? http://powerlord.panfare.com actually that one just used a video camera with a semi fish eye if it was. But with a bit of practice you can get good results. hmm. just looked and I've not got that one on there. I'll post it and put link up. Alternative is to do what I've done now. I have 2 pinhole cameras mounted on the frame, one with a fish eye. And another in my helmet. I can switch between them during flight. all send signals (through some custom trickery) to an archos for solid state recording. stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocco Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hi, I think there is a section in the PPG Bible that covers photography and shows a video pole arrangement. I can look it up tonight when I get home if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_treen Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Ther is a very small camera available that I know some people have. It a FlyCamOne and is mainly used in RC planes etc. Take a look at the following http://www.flycamone.com/ It costs about £46 plus you need a SD card. the website has the manual in English. Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard1910 Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi, I think there is a section in the PPG Bible that covers photography and shows a video pole arrangement. I can look it up tonight when I get home if that helps. Hi Rocco, Yes, i'd be grateful if you could do that for me, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinbg Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi Richard Have a look at Dog Cam Sport http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/index.html it may help (or not) Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi Martin and Dave, interesting links to those products. The flycam seems a very cheap solution (needs a SD card added) and the dog cam considerably more expensive, with lots more wiring and fitting up. I was just wondering if the extra price reflects much better quality video and stills? I know nothing of these things but, like Richard, want to get good quality footage of my flying. They both record the same number of pixels from what I can see, but is there some other measure of picture quality? or lense quality? or 'tronics? So my question is really what are the limitations of the flycam (40 + SD) or the justification of the dogcam price tag £300ish in order to make an informed choice ? thanks guys, great thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerlord Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Never used a flycam, but most of the solid states ones are a bit crap. terrible compression artifacts, etc. resolution doesn't really tell you much tbh. using an archos at 2500bps (top rate) give me reasonably quality. Then just get whatever bullet cam you fancy. Still not DV quality though.. any cheap sub 200 quid DV camcorder will give you superior results. you can get an archos for less than 100 quid, and a bullet cam off ebay for 20 quid. Reason I use it rather than one of my other video cameras though is it allows me to have it helmet mounted, and not need to worry about starting, stopping, changing tapes, etc, etc either will be far far better quality than the sd solutions. Nothing wrong with SD.. I have a sony AVCHD camcorder which records onto memory sticks in 1080i. amazing quality. but these things (the organ scientific is another) are just crappy things tbh. Price and Quality wise: get a small cheap 150 quid DV camcorder and mount it to your helmet. Too big: Get a real SD card camcorder like a samsung miniket. I have one of these too, and it takes very decent quality and is small enough to mount on helmet. They also do a version with a bulletcam, though that pushes the price back up. Must have a bulletcam: -miniket with bullet cam (250-300 and very good quality) -archos and mulletcam (solid state or HD archos) 200 -300 quid. give me a bell if you want further info. Dunno if I consider myself an expert but I've been shooting video and doing non linear editing for 15 years. stu p.s. currently got: Sony CX7 high def solid state camcorder Sony PC55 DV camcorder Sony PC100 DV camcorder JVC DV1 DV camcorder Sanyo C6 SD camcorder Sanyo HD1 high def SD camcorder Samsung minket 4xbulletcam/pinhole cameras into archos solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asquaddie Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Stu I've seen your videos on the other forum, which you superimposed the GPSDash2 dials on. For a newbie, I was very impressed watching the video; height and speed all at the same time. It would be great if you can place a link on this forum too. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerlord Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 StuI've seen your videos on the other forum, which you superimposed the GPSDash2 dials on. For a newbie, I was very impressed watching the video; height and speed all at the same time. It would be great if you can place a link on this forum too. Tony Its on my phafare site I posted earlier I think (the copdock flight) http://powerlord.phanfare.com/ Have to say, I looked at that flycamone2 though.. the original was rubbish quality, but that new one isn't half bad! and for 45 quid! - just ordered one, so will let you know how it goes. Even if the video isn't too hot, setting it to shoot stills every 4 seconds continuous could get some good shots if mounted up in the wing looking down for example. yeh took a bit of faffing to get the gpsdash info on the video, but it does bring a new angle to watching the videos, and recording them for my own 'log' if you like. I try to do that with each decent flight now: start with a map showing the gps trace, then the video with gpsdash instrumentation overlayed on it. I find it useful when watching it back to see what I'm doing, speed, etc and whether I can learn anything for next time. stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocco Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Richard, this is the picture of the mount idea from PPG Bible as promised. [/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard1910 Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi RichardHave a look at Dog Cam Sport http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/index.html it may help (or not) Martin Hi Martin, Thanks for that, i was amazed at the unbelievable quality with no signs of vibration in the picture and you can more or less fasten or stick them anywhere. I'll be ordering a couple of those in the near future, looks like i've found the answer to my question. If anyone's looking for great video equipment that will put up with the vibration, noise and electrical interference check out http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/index.html Thanks everyone for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverdan Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Richard Over the past few years I have tried to mount a cam to the cage, but I allway got allot of vibration. I have put the cam in many places. Never happy.. The best place still is on a bracket attached to your harness. I use a rotaing mount to allow the came to point in any direction. Use a wide lens. A fisheye is great like a .3 fish eye lens. Some use pol cams. This works, but you need to carry a bloddy pole with you...... I have built a canopy cam mount, but not tested it yet when I'm in the air. It is designed to fit a digital cam with shoot wide screen, and hi quality vid. I have a bulet cam, but i thing the quality sucks. It depends on what you wan to do with it in the end. Most people never edit any footage. There are good quality lipstip cams, but they they do cost big bux.. not £150 like most of them. more in the range of a £1000 or more. Dan I will post some vid when i test it. It will be up and running for the big trip in the summer... The cams I use are as follows A sony Z1 HD cam 16-9 format heavy, but it is good on your lap, or on a mount. Sony Hc1 HD 16-9 format Sony Pc120 DV.Great cam for head cam a bullet cam.. OK. record into my pc120 as a recorder. Panoasonic Lumix Lx1 compact cam. shoot vid in 16-9 format.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donegalwing Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Hi RichardHave a look at Dog Cam Sport http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/index.html it may help (or not) Martin Hi Martin, Thanks for that, i was amazed at the unbelievable quality with no signs of vibration in the picture and you can more or less fasten or stick them anywhere. I'll be ordering a couple of those in the near future, looks like i've found the answer to my question. If anyone's looking for great video equipment that will put up with the vibration, noise and electrical interference check out http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/index.html Thanks everyone for your input. Guys the telephone number for dogcamsport is 01726 891812, the guy you are looking for is Mark Nelson, saw him at the NEC last weekend, he has a lot of cameras, mounts and attachments, posted this in Tip to tip section just a few minutes ago, knew I saw this thread somewhere Regards Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG99 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I bought a dash camera from www.szswill.com. This was after quite a lot of net research. All in inc fitting $120.00. This includes the power regulator (save battery from draining if parked and operating for a few days) the fitting was excellent and discrete. The only prob us drivers have is the wipers! Where the leave the v at the top of the screen in the wet is where the camera is located. However in most conditions it blows off pretty quick when driving 30mph+. I am also putting some rainx type product on the area to help even more. The footage and audio is to be honest excellent. I am very impressed. And now I am also considering a action camera to mount on my motorcycle, maybe sometime later I'll get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markpulling Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Another option is a "chase cam " if you google it . you can make it yourself,its basicaly a length of cord attached to your wing with your gopro attached to a plastic bottle to steady it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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