jock Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 who was the local ppg that fell foul of the exclusion notam zone at brighton,when the labour party do was on sat.heli landed and a good bollicking took place im told,plus poss court apperance///could be very costly/// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 who was the local ppg that fell foul of the exclusion notam zone at brighton,when the labour party do was on sat.heli landed and a good bollicking took place im told,plus poss court apperance///could be very costly/// Good, bl**dy deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Agreed. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast_eddie Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Saw it all happen but no idea who it was.. Myself, Andy and Rupert who were all aware of the Notams because of Labour Party Conference were flying from Tescombe cliffs to Beachy Head (heading east from T/O rather than west which would have taken us in to the NFZ) on our first flight we saw a couple of other PPG,s who had taken off further in land and turned east at the coast but after we had returned and were refuling we saw one of these guys to the West of T/O in the NFZ. About 10 mins later we saw him getting a very close escort out of the area by the Police Helicopter. After he had landed the Police helicopter landed by the PPG and was on the ground for 10-15mins (but was out of our line of sight). I would imagine the the offender will be prosecuted but if not we do have pictures of him/ his wing that we can post to try and find this idiots identity. After this bit of drama we took off again for yet another super smooth flight up to Beachy head PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ NOTAMS - IT ONLY TAKES 2 MINUTES AND CAN SAVE A LOT OF HASSLE / FINES /ETC Another example of one idiot spoiling it for us all Eddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Thing is, it can really be for OUR benefit to check. If I'd been up to flying today, I would almost certainly have been in the path of the BBMF if I hadn't checked the Notams. As it was, the Dakota banked right over our house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeakin Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 If you are 100% sure that he was infringing the NFZ then I think you should post the photos. Paul D Saw it all happen but no idea who it was..Myself, Andy and Rupert who were all aware of the Notams because of Labour Party Conference were flying from Tescombe cliffs to Beachy Head (heading east from T/O rather than west which would have taken us in to the NFZ) on our first flight we saw a couple of other PPG,s who had taken off further in land and turned east at the coast but after we had returned and were refuling we saw one of these guys to the West of T/O in the NFZ. About 10 mins later we saw him getting a very close escort out of the area by the Police Helicopter. After he had landed the Police helicopter landed by the PPG and was on the ground for 10-15mins (but was out of our line of sight). I would imagine the the offender will be prosecuted but if not we do have pictures of him/ his wing that we can post to try and find this idiots identity. After this bit of drama we took off again for yet another super smooth flight up to Beachy head PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ NOTAMS - IT ONLY TAKES 2 MINUTES AND CAN SAVE A LOT OF HASSLE / FINES /ETC Another example of one idiot spoiling it for us all Eddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmh Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 At risk of being really slow - how do you check NOTAMS -is it on the www?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey-dad Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 At risk of being really slow - how do you check NOTAMS -is it on the www?! There have been a number of posts on NOTAMS recently, but this one from Norman is the one I bookmarked: Staying Legal and ahead of the game - NOTAMS Andy [Edit - link updated. Admin] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Andy, You just jumped to number 1 current student 5* A great example to all. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey-dad Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Andy, You just jumped to number 1 current student 5* A great example to all. SW Thanks Simon - I wondered why my ranking tag had changed from 'Not Here Often' to 'Been Here A While'. Although in reality it has only been a few short weeks. So much still to learn, but a very exciting journey... and great people here to help Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Ranking is based on number of posts and is automatic. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignos Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 RE Brighton Incident My friend knows the guy involved 'Bob', an experienced paramotor pilot who has been on TV (fifth gear test of the new scirocco) - Apparently the heli landed and had a chat about his paramotor, no further action to be taken. Ive pointed him in the direction of this thread here is the incident in question:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hldNa26ziA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 There is a sad truth here. If we don't have a NOTAM and AIS checking regime as art of pur pre-flight preparations, it could happen to us. Were they unlucky or just plain stoopid? Put on your judges black silk cap and make the call. I might just step into my greenhouse with a brick in my mitt and listen. Let's all learn from this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davem Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 My friend knows the guy involved 'Bob', an experienced paramotor pilot who has been on TV (fifth gear test of the new scirocco) - Apparently the heli landed and had a chat about his paramotor, no further action to be taken. Ive pointed him in the direction of this thread The video quite clearly says 'Oh dear, Steve gets a police escort'. So where does Bob come in? There have been loads of complaints re low flying along the coast from Hastings to Brighton, particularly about PPG pilots buzzing the public low along the beaches. Nearly every time I land out on the Newhaven-Brighton run, I get complaints. The CAA have been informed, and will take miscreants to court if sufficient proof is provided. While the mysterious 'Bob and Steve' may not have seen the NOTAMS, they sure as hell should know about the 500 foot rule. There is someone who regularly launches from the southern end of Telscombe Tye and annoys the public by illegal low flying. Is he Bob? Is he Steve? Or someone else? Get your act together guys; it's cool to buzz the beaches, and I know I'd be tempted myself, but it's illegal, and your day in court will come, and the result won't just be a telling off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxbob Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Hello All It was me and my lad who strayed into the NFZ Our flight was from Telescombe to Beachy Head and return which was a great flight, after a cup of tea we decided on a quick trip down to the mariner and back. Did Not check NOTAMS (lesson learned) the Police were fine, just a friendly chat and a look over the hardware on his helicopter. But apologies anyway If someone came over to my turf and did the same I would be pissed as well Bob.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxbob Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 My friend knows the guy involved 'Bob', an experienced paramotor pilot who has been on TV (fifth gear test of the new scirocco) - Apparently the heli landed and had a chat about his paramotor, no further action to be taken. Ive pointed him in the direction of this thread The video quite clearly says 'Oh dear, Steve gets a police escort'. So where does Bob come in? There have been loads of complaints re low flying along the coast from Hastings to Brighton, particularly about PPG pilots buzzing the public low along the beaches. Nearly every time I land out on the Newhaven-Brighton run, I get complaints. The CAA have been informed, and will take miscreants to court if sufficient proof is provided. While the mysterious 'Bob and Steve' may not have seen the NOTAMS, they sure as hell should know about the 500 foot rule. There is someone who regularly launches from the southern end of Telscombe Tye and annoys the public by illegal low flying. Is he Bob? Is he Steve? Or someone else? Get your act together guys; it's cool to buzz the beaches, and I know I'd be tempted myself, but it's illegal, and your day in court will come, and the result won't just be a telling off... That was our first flight in your area and in the 2 to 3 years we have flown in our area not one complaint. we get lots of people asking questions and we go out of our way to show them all the kit. hearts and minds it pays to be friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Full marks for stepping forward into the unwanted limelight though. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davem Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 That was our first flight in your area and in the 2 to 3 years we have flown in our area not one complaint. No problem. As others have said, not many people check NOTAMs anyway, becasue they're obscure, and a pain to get at. However, it seems the plot thickens. According to one of our members, there was a lone PPG who flew past the Marina, and right up to the conference hall, at low level. So who was he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Well done Bob, I take off my hat to you. Owning up takes courage and integrity and I guess we have all learnt from your experience. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanman Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 ...According to one of our members, there was a lone PPG who flew past the Marina, and right up to the conference hall, at low level. So who was he? AFAIK Bob turned back around the Roedean area while Steve continued on alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxbob Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Sounds about right but he didn't come back alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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