GB007 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Hello In my research to find out more about Paramotoring (If I got this right) I just found out there seems to be 2 ways to be trained, BHPA approved training & APPI approved training. At the moment I don’t see why you would choose one over the other, is it possible one better that the other? What are the implications (if any) if qualified with one and not the other? Many Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 If you train abroad you will get APPI, in the UK you get BHPA. Do not use a school that does not follow one of these as you will not be able to get insurance. I chose APPI because it is recognised well overseas and I fly abroad much of the year. I wanted insurance that covers that. The UK insurance has a limited overseas time. If you want to fly at a BHPA approved site they will want you to be BHPA trained. Either APPI or BHPA is ok for fly-ins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi k Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Training could also depend on who you are close to and how far you'll travel?, as legally you do not need training but i would advise for it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB007 Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) Thanks for this info Andy. Does this mean if someone was APPI qualified they could not fly in the UK or just the BHPA sites and are there APPI sites in the UK? Also if someone was APPI and want to fly BHPA sites would they have to then go through the training again but with a BHPA school? Sorry I don't know what a Fly-In is? Thanks Edited November 30, 2018 by GB007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB007 Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) Hi Kiwi I would not dare do this without training, I'm not brave enough. PS: I actually think I’m a bit scared of heights. Thanks Edited November 30, 2018 by GB007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I am APPI trained and fly all over the UK. There are some BHPA school sites and they will not let you fly without BHPA training. Fly-ins are organised events with many (often 100's) of pilots. You must have insurance to fly at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi k Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, GB007 said: Hi Kiwi I would not dare do this without training, I'm not brave enough. PS: I actually think I’m a bit scared of heights. Thanks The other week there was 11 of us flying of which 4 are scared of heights, And most admit they are only frightened until they're feet leave the ground and sitting in the seat properly, So No big problem and you'll be glad you did it. Dependent on previous experience (Not directed at you GB007) but BHPA have an alternative entry basis, yes you need to show handling and basic knowledge of understanding thermals and weather conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB007 Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 Thanks Andy Am I allowed to ask who you trained with, if not, not to worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB007 Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 Kiwi - I have my BHPA Hang Gliding CP and mainly flown in Algodonales. I'm low air time but have a couple of spectacular flights under my belt. I own 2 Hang Gliders but still think I'm a bit scared of height which make me laugh. Why do I still want to do it? I find Understanding the weather is a real challenge, I seem to forget more than I learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I did 2 separate weeks with Skyschool. I did 4 flights towards the end of the first week and then 11 flights the second week to complete training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 On 30/11/2018 at 13:00, AndyB said: If you train abroad you will get APPI, in the UK you get BHPA. Do not use a school that does not follow one of these as you will not be able to get insurance. I chose APPI because it is recognised well overseas and I fly abroad much of the year. I wanted insurance that covers that. The UK insurance has a limited overseas time. If you want to fly at a BHPA approved site they will want you to be BHPA trained. Either APPI or BHPA is ok for fly-ins. you can get insurance no matter who you train with,Axa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Yes, but if you want to fly abroad more than 60 days then you need AXA insurance, not BHPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi k Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, AndyB said: Yes, but if you want to fly abroad more than 60 days then you need AXA insurance, not BHPA. Andy your probably in the Minority most of us do not spend more than 2 months flying abroad so BHPA is fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Axa you can fly in uk all year round.as well as abroad, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, jock said: Axa you can fly in uk all year round.as well as abroad, Yes, AXA allows you to fly in any country (not USA) for as long s you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin (Simon W) Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 23 hours ago, jock said: you can get insurance no matter who you train with,Axa You can also get Insurance via the Paramotor Club, if you have had PMC, BHPA, or APPI training Our policy costs less than AXA by a fair chunk, offers tandem and also covers Paragliding. Long gone are the days of needing to be in the BHPA just for the insurance. SW 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 On 02/12/2018 at 17:59, admin (Simon W) said: You can also get Insurance via the Paramotor Club, if you have had PMC, BHPA, or APPI training Our policy costs less than AXA by a fair chunk, offers tandem and also covers Paragliding. Long gone are the days of needing to be in the BHPA just for the insurance. SW Long gone are the days of needing to be in the BHPA just for the insurance,,,,are you sure on that..lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin (Simon W) Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Yes. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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