outkast

and well done

what he said awesome

It's not so much that there is anything wrong with it.

It's just that the Polini is better. (no electric start though )

SW

you dont need it with the flash starter fitted

mate of mine flys the fresh breeze with the solo engine and high hang points, its pretty light being made of aly, but one ding and its a bugger to fit the frame parts together, fair bit of tourqe on it too.

the solo is a bit long in the tooth now as motors go, mite be worth trying to get something a bit more modern.

You could be in luck, I'm about to order a GTX. Want to try one but might feel a bit mild compared to the GTR.

Not likely to arrive till January.

I can give an unbiased review but my point of view has been distorted from

flying the GTR for the last year. Need to jump on someone's revo2 to bring me back inline with more normal wings.

Vince I would be quite happy to give it a go for you

My pap always gave me bruises under my arms , nearly every time i flew it..

Dont think there was anything wrong with my technique either..

as above, the two paps I had both gave me bruises when landing.

I can only say what method i have found that worked for me, the revo was a case of a regular forward or reverse launch.

with the Nuc I find this techniuqe works best as the Nuc tends to have a bit of a sticking point as it rises.

clip in as per normal, take hold of the risers ect, take up slak on the lines to make sure you equal pressure on each, step back one step, about quarter throttle, let off throttle and imediately run forward snatching the wing off the ground, no pressure on the As as the wing comes up and is roughly at the nine oclock position if viewed from the side get back on the throttle, this tends to make the wing pass through its sticking point much easier, once the wing is up I am already moving forward still at about half throttle, I take a qucik glance either side to check its inflated ok and then hit the throttle and am normally off the ground quite quick.

all sounds a bit complicated and is easier to do than describe, but once you get to feel how the nuc rises its quite easy.

Cheers Dave, that's really useful, and interesting because that's how I launch my Revo2

I'm due a change and the Nuc sounds perfect for me, but I want to wait to see how the GTX is reviewed.

Dan

I am with you on that one mate, I have been looking everywhere for an unbiased review of the GTX, I guess not enough people have flown them yet.

Thanks Dan, if you get the chance try and get a demo on a nuc you will love it, pity you are not nearer as you could have tried mine.

I'd love to try one, but unlikely out here.

Can I just ask, in what way is the launch technique different on the Nuc? I've only ever flown a Revo and I semi-power launch every time, and it is a doddle. Virtually 100% success, unless of course you're standing on the lines, like I did the other day

I can only say what method i have found that worked for me, the revo was a case of a regular forward or reverse launch.

with the Nuc I find this techniuqe works best as the Nuc tends to have a bit of a sticking point as it rises.

clip in as per normal, take hold of the risers ect, take up slak on the lines to make sure you equal pressure on each, step back one step, about quarter throttle, let off throttle and imediately run forward snatching the wing off the ground, no pressure on the As as the wing comes up and is roughly at the nine oclock position if viewed from the side get back on the throttle, this tends to make the wing pass through its sticking point much easier, once the wing is up I am already moving forward still at about half throttle, I take a qucik glance either side to check its inflated ok and then hit the throttle and am normally off the ground quite quick.

all sounds a bit complicated and is easier to do than describe, but once you get to feel how the nuc rises its quite easy.

Nuc is the most stable xc wing out there along with the synthesis ( but more efficient).

Haven't flown the Revo 2

Luke, how can you say that the Nuc is the most stable wing out there if you haven't flown a Revo 2?

Dan

I have, and it is more stable than the revo2

Absolutely bolt strait in.

Your old chassis has some resale value to help lower the cost further.

now you are talking

What are the main dig fences between the Paramania Revo 2 & the Dudek Nucleon. A few guys that I know that have flown both say the nucleon feels loads better in flight?

I sold my Revo 2 to buy a Nucleon, the biggest differance I noticed straight away was how much throttle I needed in flight, the revo needed around three quarter throttle to stay in level flight with the trimmers on take off position.

The nuc on the other hand needs barely more than tickover when flying with the trimmers in the same position, I was using a fair bit of fuel on the revo, I dont use no where near the same on the nuc.

its a bit different to launch, the revo is quite easy where as the nuc requires a different techniuqe but once mastered its a doddle.

I found both wings to be very stable with trimmers out, both feel nice and solid.

The higher performance of the nuc is apparent as soon as you start flying it, it just seems to carve through the air so much better, with the nuc you just have to pint it where you want to go and you are there, where the revo would wollow a bit the nuc just goes.

The nucs trimmers are a bit fussy but again once you are used to them they are not a problem.

The differance in glide rate is huge, once you let off the throttle the revo would loose hieght quick, but the nuc just keeps going, I got caught out on my first flight on the nuc and nearly went straight through the gate ata the end of the field and off into the distance.

I love the nuc and it gives me everything I want from a wing at this point, the only thing I may change it for is the new GTX, but I am waiting to see some reviews on that before I make a move.

The revo2 is a good first wing if you have never flown before, however if you are coming from a background in paragliding you may be a bit dissapointed with its performance and the nuc may suit you better.

Nice review, very helpful.

Thanks

Dan

Thanks Dan, if you get the chance try and get a demo on a nuc you will love it, pity you are not nearer as you could have tried mine.

Si can we get the web bods to provide a "most impressed" button please

Outkast,

Morgy was like that when he came to our place as well mate. not so much as an offer.

SW

you should have said you wanted to demo a speedster as you were looking to buy one, cash talks mate

Micheal if you want to fly airliners for a living have you thought about some of the scolarship programs some airlines run?

to be honest flying anything other than open cockpit does not really appeal to me, but horses for courses I geuss.

have you considered joining the RAF, you will need to be well educated and have a high tolerance to things like G forces ect to fly a military jet, I come from a long line of pilots, both military and comercial.

if your goal is to one day fly for a living you wont go far wrong in joing the RAF.

Out cast were the wings the same size??? I thought you had a small revo??

If you have come from Paragliding you might want to look at the speedster. Most of our local Nucleon Pilot's have switched to Speedsters.

The nucleon is rock solid, you wont go wrong with it. but if you like the feel of a free flight wing the Speedster will be more to your liking.

Hi Morgy, yes my revo was smaller but the wing loading as per placarded wieght range was almost the same.

not flown the speester so cant coment on how it compares to the nuc, I am still waiting for Morgy to offer my a go on his

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140896213625

Any questions?

Can make a package or just as a chassis only.

I am happy to retro-fit your own engine to make a chassis upgrade.

Lots of options.

It's a one off and you won't find cheaper.

would my polini fit in it Vince?

What are the main dig fences between the Paramania Revo 2 & the Dudek Nucleon. A few guys that I know that have flown both say the nucleon feels loads better in flight?

I sold my Revo 2 to buy a Nucleon, the biggest differance I noticed straight away was how much throttle I needed in flight, the revo needed around three quarter throttle to stay in level flight with the trimmers on take off position.

The nuc on the other hand needs barely more than tickover when flying with the trimmers in the same position, I was using a fair bit of fuel on the revo, I dont use no where near the same on the nuc.

its a bit different to launch, the revo is quite easy where as the nuc requires a different techniuqe but once mastered its a doddle.

I found both wings to be very stable with trimmers out, both feel nice and solid.

The higher performance of the nuc is apparent as soon as you start flying it, it just seems to carve through the air so much better, with the nuc you just have to pint it where you want to go and you are there, where the revo would wollow a bit the nuc just goes.

The nucs trimmers are a bit fussy but again once you are used to them they are not a problem.

The differance in glide rate is huge, once you let off the throttle the revo would loose hieght quick, but the nuc just keeps going, I got caught out on my first flight on the nuc and nearly went straight through the gate ata the end of the field and off into the distance.

I love the nuc and it gives me everything I want from a wing at this point, the only thing I may change it for is the new GTX, but I am waiting to see some reviews on that before I make a move.

The revo2 is a good first wing if you have never flown before, however if you are coming from a background in paragliding you may be a bit dissapointed with its performance and the nuc may suit you better.

I am 79KG and fly a venom with the polini thor 110, its has more than enough thrust to get me, the motor, wing, reserve ect off the ground and a good climb rate under a Nuc 31.

any thor 110 motor should be more than adequate.

If it was me it would defo be a bulldog !

and you did

Torque is very well managed to the point of not feeling it anymore. It is obviously still there in some form but it is managed to the point of I have no left or right turn under full power from a 130cm prop. 80kg thrust with an 83kg pilot. This is true for both the Zenith and AirConception. Both motors have off set swan neck weight shift. The off set in the arms not the frame (it makes all the difference)

The Kobra had a little bit of turn but even that was below average and easily compensated with a crossed leg.

Like what was said earlier ' a solution to a problem that its not there anymore '

I had quite a pronounced tourqe effect on my venom, but a hang check and a bit of tweeking with the setup sorted it out

Well, I thought its been so quiet on the Kent front here I'd drop a line.

A few of us fly out of Pedham Place Golf @ J3 M25........... on and off.

Today was bloooody cold but a flight had to be had!!

Vitaly and myself set up and took off. I only lasted just under an hour and Vitaly did just over an hour.

Usually I pack my kit up this time of year and wait for spring next year.

This year I am going to fly through winter - if possible?!

Taking off and flying in snow would be interesting?....any tips out there?

My hands as usual ..............more to the point - my finger tips froze!!!!!!!

My suit held up well.

Still has to be the ultimate 'buzz' sport!!!

Till the next flight.

Mike

one of the blokes I work with said he saw a paramotor flying near junction 3 so was proberly you.

are they ski goggles Mark?

No house is worth selling your paramotor for....

If you need to sell your motor to buy a new house then you can't afford to buy a new house...

Keep your motor and save up for a bit longer.

I am with Mr Grape on this one, dont do it you will miss it come summer and everyones out have a great time.

Loving it BOB, thanks for posting

The further the tips of the prop are from the centre the higher the torque/procession effect will be, IE bigger prop more torque.