paraboost Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 So its time for me to sort myself out some proper headgear and would like to draw on your infinite pools of wisdom! Most important is obviously noise cancelation but music playing quality is right up there. At the moment I dont use a radio but could imagine this being useful in the future, if this is greatly gonna scarifies sound quality though I'd rather go without it. At the moment I'm tempted with the NAC-new 2000 Horus OPPIII helmet and headset of the parashop website http://parashop.co.uk/paramotorparaglidinghelmets.htm Is anyone currently using this headset and have any feedback about it? I'm really interested to know what the sound quality is like? I know quite a few of you are believers in the micro avionics setup but I cant bring myself around to the look of the white helmet. I've also seen posts on here where people have gone for the simple earcups and then added helmet speakers into and wondering if you think this is best. Does this produce much better sound quality than headsets with built in speakers already like the MP001? Cheers for any help or guidance you can lend me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiosity Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 And there's me thinking head protection would have been up there on the list of requirements! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notch Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I have these: http://noisebuster.net/hard-hat-cap-mount-features.html attached to a bike helmet. But I'm sure they would attach to most ppg helmets too. Haven't tried the other brands, but the active noise cancellation on these works as advertised! Having music playing whilst flying is just great, the only downside is that sometimes your mates can hear you singing along to the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartasutherland Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I use an Icaro Fly helmet with the Peltor ear defenders thrown away and replaced with Micro Avionics PPG headset - great for music / radio and noise cancellation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paraboost Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 I use an Icaro Fly helmet with the Peltor ear defenders thrown away and replaced with Micro Avionics PPG headset - great for music / radio and noise cancellation. Yeah I've thought of going down this route - I'm glad to hear the music quality from them is good cause that was my main concern. I saw these on ebay for only $70 which seem to do the same job but I guess I must be missing something. Does anyone know if the are really so much inferior in quality or what justifies the £150 price difference? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Paramotor-Pow ... 43b6d40499 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paraboost Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 I have these:http://noisebuster.net/hard-hat-cap-mount-features.html attached to a bike helmet. But I'm sure they would attach to most ppg helmets too. Haven't tried the other brands, but the active noise cancellation on these works as advertised! Having music playing whilst flying is just great, the only downside is that sometimes your mates can hear you singing along to the music. Those noise busters seem to look pretty good, but i think i'm right on saying the peltors which a lot of PPG helmets have have a higher noise cancelation rating @ 35dB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiosity Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I could have sworn I recently read someone explaining that noise cancelling technology cannot work with a two stroke. Nor sure why, and no experience to support this comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 It 100% can indeed. i have a pair of shooting ones that work a trat when the volume is set correctly. (at least they used to until I drove over them in the field) SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiosity Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Simon, I have no idea whether noise cancelling headphones would work with a 2 stroke, but I am 99% sure that shooting ear defenders are not actually 'noise cancelling'. I've had several pairs over the years and all they do is to immediately cease their usual amplification of the background noise when a shot (or anything over a certain volume) is detected. They certainly don't do any active noise cancellation. In other words, once you start the engine they are no different from a £5 pair of passive ear defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I had / have a pair of active noise reduction shooting headset dude. Wait one while I find a link for you. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Exactly the ones I have http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/22102109 ... pla&crdt=0 If you have a pair of the above on, they cut in when you start the motor and silence it pretty much to nothing. When you turn the motor of, they amplify the sound of the air going past your lines :-) SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiosity Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Yes, I had a pair of those ones until I left them in a ploughed field! They do exactly as you say cutting out noise above a certain level. When the sound level drops they amplify the ambient sound so that you can hear exactly as you would if you didn't have them on. However, I am still sure that when the noise level increases they simply block out the sound by cutting the amplification and then acting as a pair of passive ear defenders. You will find that if you switch them off they do just as good a noise of blocking the sound of the gun/engine. Anyway, not worth having an argument over. They are good things to have anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiosity Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Yes, I had a pair of those ones until I left them in a ploughed field! They do exactly as you say cutting out noise above a certain level. When the sound level drops they amplify the ambient sound so that you can hear exactly as you would if you didn't have them on. However, I am still sure that when the noise level increases they simply block out the sound by cutting the amplification and then acting as a pair of passive ear defenders. You will find that if you switch them off they do just as good a noise of blocking the sound of the gun/engine. Anyway, not worth having an argument over. They are good things to have anyway. BTW have a look at this...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise-cancelling_headphones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I am fairly sure that the little fluffy round thing on the outside of the head set are microphones. That Microphone listens and then sends out an opposite noise though the speaker in the headset. I will put a quid on them being ANR headphones. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiosity Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 You're on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiosity Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Just spoken to Napier HQ. You owe me a quid! (Remember that conversation we had on Tuesday about 'being always right') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notch Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) I have these:http://noisebuster.net/hard-hat-cap-mount-features.html attached to a bike helmet. But I'm sure they would attach to most ppg helmets too. Haven't tried the other brands, but the active noise cancellation on these works as advertised! Having music playing whilst flying is just great, the only downside is that sometimes your mates can hear you singing along to the music. Those noise busters seem to look pretty good, but i think i'm right on saying the peltors which a lot of PPG helmets have have a higher noise cancelation rating @ 35dB Ahh yes the peltors do have higher ratings. BUT, all ear passive defenders are crap at low frequencies. One thing ANR is good at is: low frequencies. With the kinds of noise we get in PPG (mostly low freq prop noise), the noise busters are better than the higher rated peltors. I have had both, and I much prefer the noise busters. A great added bonus is that you can easily add music via the 3.5mm jack in the bottom - so no faffing with added speakers, and you can also get a mic option too! Edited December 14, 2012 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Why do/would you want ANR anyway? I have a microavionics headset and it is quiet enough to use the radio and listen to music AND still be able to hear that my motor is running nicely in the back ground. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notch Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 After an hour+ I find noise really starts getting to me... At $150, these cost the same as plain old earmuffs with speakers, but have ANR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Just spoken to Napier HQ. You owe me a quid! (Remember that conversation we had on Tuesday about 'being always right') LOL SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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