AndyB Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I know there has been much debate on air rules, but I am struggling to find the actual written details in Spain. All the Spanish air law is nicely on one site... http://www.enaire.es/csee/Satellite/navegacion-aerea/en/Page/1078418725153//ENR-En-route.html However, I cannot see any mention of Paraglider or Paramotor anywhere. Does anyone know if pg/ppg has some written content somewhere? Whilst there appears to be a relaxed approach to ppg here, the air law says NO flying closer than 500 feet to anything or person EVER, apart from landing. Even flying together is detailed under formations and separation distances are huge (for fast moving machines!). I was prompted to think again about this after a recent flight where a police car turned up at my launch site on the beach and the two policemen got out and waved to me as I flew over. After landing I found they were just interested and wanted a chat! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin (Simon W) Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Ref: the distance between pilots @ 500ft. This is correct of course under normal flying conditions, however all that is required to fly in 'formation' is the permission of all pilots involved so that's an easy one to get around. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 Cheers Simon. Were you referring to UK rules? I cannot find in the Air Law for Spain dispensation for us to fly close together. In fact PG/PPG does not appear to actually be mentioned anywhere in the rules. However, I am told we are considered as a microlight. There is legislation for Heli's under special slow flight conditions (less then 140 kph|) and there are also rules for formation flying (of fast moving military aircraft). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin (Simon W) Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Yes, sorry. I was covering the 500ft bit you mentioned. I have copied the SERA document below which is well worth a read SERA – all you need to know The Standardised European Rules of the Air (commonly referred to as SERA) took effect across Europe on 4 December 2014 and in the UK superseded most (but not all) of the UK Rules of the Air Regulations 2007. Full details of the rule and the associated changes are contained in the CAA’s SERA web pages at www.caa.co.uk/sera. SERA is based on the same International standards as the UK Rules of the Air so in most respects they are identical. However, there are a number of differences to what aviators in the UK are accustomed to and these are summarised below. SERA is slightly different to other European Regulations because it applies to all aircraft in European airspace (not just 'EASA aircraft'). Also, SERA does not address all of the areas that UK Rules of the Air historically have (for example, certain aircraft lighting requirements) and in some cases it requires States to write their own 'enabling' measures to allow some activities to take place (for example, VFR at night). It also allows for the retention of provisions that were already in place before SERA took effect, as long as these comply with and supplement SERA. The result is that the UK has retained a small number of domestic Rules of the Air and issued a number of General Permissions and General Exemptions. These can be found through the CAA’s SERA web pages at www.caa.co.uk/sera. Key changes Visual Meteorological conditions SERA requires aircraft flying VFR in controlled airspace to remain 1500m horizontally and 1000ft vertically from cloud and in a flight visibility of at least 5km at all times. The CAA is temporarily allowing aircraft flying VFR within Class C, D and E below 3000ft AMSL by day at 140kts or less to continue to apply the 'clear of cloud and with the surface in sight' minima as they have always done. This temporary arrangement currently lasts until 4 August 2015, and a permanent arrangement has yet to be finalised. The CAA will keep industry informed of progress with this. Cruising levels The quadrantal cruising levels system historically used in the UK does not exist in SERA. Instead, the semi-circular cruising level system applied throughout the rest of the world is used. To aid transition to the new system, this will now take effect in the UK on 2 April 2015. Minimum Heights By Day Although SERA changes the minimum height to a blanket 500ft above the surface, the CAA has used the flexibility provided in SERA to allow aircraft in the UK to fly below 500ft provided they are 500ft away from persons, vessels, vehicles and structures – in other words no change from the UK’s former '500ft Rule' that people flying in the UK are used to applying. The CAA has also granted generic permissions to allow for all the long-standing exceptions to the old rule 5 that were contained in rule 6 – i.e. gliders hill-soaring, aircraft picking-up and dropping articles at aerodromes, practising forced landings and flying displays/air races/contests, to continue unaffected. Otherwise 1000ft is the minimum height over cities, towns or settlements or over an open-air assembly of persons above the highest obstacle within a radius of 600 m from the aircraft. VFR at night Aircraft have been able to fly under VFR at night since June 2012. SERA introduced a small number of additional requirements for aircraft flying at night. These are: - If the aircraft leaves the vicinity of an aerodrome a flight plan must be filed. This can either be a ‘paper’ plan, an AFPEX plan or an abbreviated plan (‘booking out’). - The cloud ceiling must be at least 1,500ft AMSL; - The flight visibility must be at least 5km, or 3km for helicopters; - When flying at 3,000ft AMSL or below, the surface must be in sight at all times; and - The night VFR minimum height requirements are more stringent than the day requirements. Aircraft are to be flown at least 1000ft above the highest fixed obstacle within 8km of the aircraft, or 2000 ft when flying over high or mountainous terrain. Special VFR (SVFR) SERA introduced a speed limit of 140kts to aircraft flying under an SVFR clearance. The weather minima is now: - Remain clear of cloud and with the surface in sight - Maintain a flight visibility of 1500m, or 800m for helicopters Rights of way on the ground Rules on overtaking and giving way are now less specific. Aircraft and vehicles overtaking other aircraft and vehicles can now pass on either the left or the right. The Right Hand Rule The UK rule which required aircraft to be flown along the right hand side of line features ceases to be a legal requirement. However, it is still considered to be good practice as a means avoiding collisions with aircraft coming the other way, and so is strongly recommended. SERA does not makes any changes to pilot licenses or their conditions and limitations. Some licences include limitations such as visibility minima which may be greater than the minimum specified in the Visual Flight Rules. Therefore pilots are recommended to remind themselves of the applicable minima for their licence (you can find this on the personnel licensing pages of the CAA website). More detailed information regarding SERA can be found on the CAA’s SERA web pages by visiting www.caa.co.uk/sera. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted June 11, 2017 Author Share Posted June 11, 2017 Thanks Simon. It would appear that all of the SERA VFR rules are already in the Spanish air law. The Spanish Paramotor body tells me that PG/PPG is largely ignored, although must still follow rules. There does not appear to anything specific as yet for PG/PPG and hence we are told to look under MIcrolight. Key requirements, must have insurance and must have permission form land owner. I have been told that like in the UK, you must ask the land owner's permission. If you are found flying without permission then there is a fine of Euro 6000. The only example of this I have is one of the Paramotor schools got fined flying off the beach! The beach is owned by the State and you have to apply for permission to fly off them and of course it involves some money. I suspect that a Paramotor school flying off the beach, draws much more attention to itself than just a leisure pilot or 2 flying at random times and different beaches....so we are still likely to be ignored. However, I am going to find out about the beach permission and see what is involved in getting it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin (Simon W) Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 We had to get a couple of different permissions for the Spain holiday, one from the local Mayor and one from the Police. This is normally simple enough if you have a local contact. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 I have had a chat with the Spanish equivalent of the CAA (ENAIRE). There is a separate Royal Decree that defines Ultra-lightweight flying machines and us. Link here (in Spanish!)... http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/rd2876-1982.html Having recently been told by a large Spanish Paramotor school that we are considered as MIcro-lights, I find Article 1 immediately says we are not! Article 1 Non-motorized aerodynamics (gliders), aerostats, or motorized or non-motorized aircraft, are not considered ultra-light for the direct take-off or landing of any occupant, Such as delta wings, motorized parachutes, aerostats with motorized nacelles, as well as any other ingenuity that needs such an effort to take off or land. Love the last part of that sentence. If it is difficult to get off the ground it is exempted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinereus Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Is this still all the same 5 years later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin (Simon W) Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 SERA has not changed yet. (unless I missed something!) so I think safe to say nothing has changed (except maybe the attitude towards brits a little) SW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myusername Posted January 28, 2024 Share Posted January 28, 2024 Any update on permission to fly from a beach? Is it possible? Required for all beaches? Who gives permission? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.