notch Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Thinking about getting a new wing, and need one that is safe (ENA/B), and is good for both PPG and PG. Yes, I know I'll be slower than my mates, but being a family man safety is top priority. The Z4 seems to be a big step up in performance from the Z3, I'm wondering if this would be ok for ppg. Anyone tried a Z4 + PPG ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominicppg Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Have you considered getting a PPG wing that can also be used for PG? Are you likely to do more PPG than PG? If so, you could look at the novice/intermediate wings from Paramania (Revo 2, EN B) and Ozone (Roadster EN C). Dom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notch Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Dom, Unfortunately the 28m revo2 is not certified (never has been). The roadster is also a good choice for a lot of people but for me at 145kg on a 125cc engine, I'm afraid 28m will be too small. Thanks for the suggestions tho. Beginning to think ENC is unavoidable. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dariuszk24 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Hi if you like MacPara Eden5 is the wing for your expectation ,its safe B and huge performance for bough paramotor and free fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notch Posted July 9, 2013 Author Share Posted July 9, 2013 looks like a nice option.... but the 33m size is again not certified... perhaps a diet is in order! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Hi Notch I have used an older style Buzz Z and it oscillated like a bastard.. As far as i know the Z4 is not suited to Power.. I would have to check as we dont deal with Ozone's PG wings How Many hours do you have PG and PPG The Speedster is a enC but mainly scored A's and B's http://www.para-test.com/images/Test_Re ... _26_en.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hi I was wrong Ozone Buzz Z 4 can be used with power... Power trimmers will be available some time in the future. Regards Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notch Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Yeah, oscillation was what I was afraid of. Perhaps the Buzz Z4 still an option then. The Buzz Z4 when 10kg over the placard weight is probably an ENC anyway! I have 20 hours PG and 100 Hours PPG. Really need two wings dammit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thyslouw Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Hi do you weigh 145 ? or does it include the motor ? My naked weight in 2008 was 145 kg and I flew the Eden 3 , 33 m and I used a PAP Ros 125 no problem over , I flew well over100 hours on the wing no collapses at all , a mate of mine weighed 135 kg and he flew the Eden 3, 31 m and he flew it for 3 years , nice for free flying as well . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Hi Notch I am 117 kg all up on a max 95kg on the 24m and my wing still thermals very well. If your after a multi purpose wing come and give the Speedster a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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