New Standing Order for Lyneham ATC.

[Guest]

As a Result of the day with the RAF the following standing order has been submitted.

RESULT!!!

LYN/879/4/ATC

All ATC Staff

06 Apr 08

PARAMOTOR GLIDING OPERATIONS OUT OF PARK FARM

1. Park Farm is a small gliding site marked on the radar video map 2.5 miles north of Membury Mast. It has been agreed that when there are significant paramotor launches from the site, the lead pilot will contact ATC RAF Lyneham giving brief details of their intended activities. Our immediate actions are to:

a. Inform the pilot of the runway in use and any other information deemed relevant particularly any active drop zones.

b. Promulgate the information on ET ‘Park Farm Active’.

2. Controllers should also consider the following factors:

a. Paramotor gliders have a low ground speed, typically below 25 Kts and are very difficult to see at range.

b. There is no legislation governing the use of paramotor gliders. Consequently, the experience, knowledge and ability of pilots varies massively.

c. They typically operate at 2500 feet but are more than capable of climbing to the base of cloud.

d. They frequently operate within the extended 24 approach lane.

3. The lead pilot will contact ATC RAF Lyneham when flying activities have ceased. It is important that we maintain this liaison as the sport becomes more and more popular.

J D A HENDSTOCK

Plt Off

ATCO

SW

Edited April 6, 2008 by Guest

[Guest]

Simon, what you guys have achieved here is of HUGE significance for local PPG. Not just for your site but paramotorclub affilliates and the wider PPG community! A good day's work.

What do we need to know about their activities and mode of operation for our flight planning? Is there to be a "standard briefing" posted?

[Dragonphotographic]

Congratulations guys, that is a MASSIVE and far reaching development! Well done to all concerned.

[Guest]

Also forgot to ask in my previous post is this call to Lyneham in addition to or instead of the normal call to the (Wittering) military midweek flying number? (I didnt see in the standing orders any specific reference of promulgation to Wittering.

for info:-

Military Freephone (for all midweek flying) - Phone 0800 515544

Red Arrows & Royal Flights – Phone 0500 354802

[Guest]

Hi Francis,

This is indeed a fist for PPG as a sport. We have enough now to present to the RAF bases all over the UK. I / We will submit site information in a similar format for all Paramotor Club sites to your local RAF base.

This is NOT a NOTAM and you should still submit a NOTAM if required. BUT

It is almost a little better than a NOTAM in that, Our club pilots have now met thier pilots. We know their regular haunts and vice versa. As you say this is a non BS way of keeping PPG pilots as safe as can be.

It is also a good example of how we can manage ourselfs in this sport and shows that we actualy 'want' to stay safe and out of fast jets way! I can tell you that Air Space regulations alone will NOT keep you safe.

If your regional club can gather a minimum of 10 names to attend your local RAF base, let me know and I will use our new contact to make it happen.

This is a giant leap never before acheived by anyone. All of the Paramotor Club members should feel a part of this because its the busy site, the growing members, the high interest of the members.... that made this happen.

So..... Can you gather 10 people together? (I will be 1 of course)

SW

[Guest]

All this is the 'Final' and now (OFFICIAL) Standing order for the ATC team at RAF Lyneham. It has been agreed and is active from now.

LYN/879/4/ATC

All ATC Staff

06 Apr 08

PARAMOTOR GLIDING OPERATIONS OUT OF PARK FARM

1. Park Farm is a small gliding site marked on the radar video map 2.5 miles north of Membury Mast. It has been agreed that when there are significant paramotor launches from the site, the lead pilot will contact ATC RAF Lyneham giving brief details of their intended activities. Our immediate actions are to:

a. Inform the pilot of the runway in use and any other information deemed relevant particularly any active drop zones.

b. Promulgate the information on ET ‘Park Farm Active’.

2. Controllers should also consider the following factors:

a. Paramotor gliders are non-radio equipped and therefore unable to penetrate any controlled airspace.

b. Paramotor gliders have a low ground speed, typically below 25 Kts and are very difficult to see at range.

c. There is no legislation governing the use of paramotor gliders. Consequently, the experience, knowledge and ability of pilots varies massively.

d. They typically operate at 2500 feet but are more than capable of climbing to the

base of cloud.

e. They frequently operate within the extended 24 approach lane.

3. The lead pilot will contact ATC RAF Lyneham when flying activities have ceased. It is important that we maintain this liaison as the sport becomes more and more popular.

J D A HENDSTOCK

Plt Off

ATCO

END

SW

[Guest]

To add to this,

Please ensure that only 1 person calls to activate and deactivate this service.

SW

[Dragonphotographic]

Just a quick thought. Would it be a good idea for any given group to decide who their lead pilot is going to be on arrival at the site?

also, choose a second in case the first is not available at the end of the day for any reason.

This information, along with time the first call was made, can be written down and displayed at the site, say inside someone's car windscreen for later arrivals.

The ATC at Lyneham has extended a very professional courtesy in establishing a clear written procedure, it would be good to reciprocate.

Like I said, just a thought

[norman]

Great move forward gents. Great suggestion from Marc above - nominate the days duty pilot, he can make the contact at the beginning and end of the day. Passing a mobile number for the 'Duty Pilot' might also be an appropriate professional reciprocation.

Watch that the information passed isn't too specific, fly outside what you have told them you are going to do and you degrade the value of the information passed and erode trust.

[Guest]

All,

We could make it as simple as a first on site and last to leave rule.

SW

[Dragonphotographic]

LOL, that would work too