jonnorton Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hello all, I recently bought one of these; a couple of people I have spoken to think the cage size could well be a problem for me due my height (5' 8"), just wondered if anyone else has found this to be an issue? thanks Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer_Dave Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Keep the large cage if you can Jon, even if spinning a smaller prop. More prop/ cage clearance equals less broken props. If you do need to sell it let me know. A friend is wanting one Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Hello all,I recently bought one of these; a couple of people I have spoken to think the cage size could well be a problem for me due my height (5' 8"), just wondered if anyone else has found this to be an issue? thanks Jon I am the same height as you and had a Pap Top 80 for 2.5 years put 250 hours on it and only ever cleaned the carb out once and put one new plug in it. I had no problems with the cage size and only changed it due to wanting more power for economy and playing around close to the ground. A most excellent choice, enjoy Pete b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirmal Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I fly a PAP Top80 1400. I am about 5' 7'' and cage size has never been an issue for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 One has just popped up on ebay if anyone is interested - LINK HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnorton Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 Thanks for the replies. I haven't used it yet, other than as a very expensive leaf blower! Even so am pleased with it as it seems well made, well balanced, very easy to start & quite a bit lighter than some other motors. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazer1981 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Hi john. I Hope you dont mind me asking but where did you purchase the machine from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnorton Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 No problem, got it from someone who works for Skyschool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazer1981 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Ok thanks. It sounds like it was a good buy for you and i am a big fan of the pap machines. Do they sell second hand pap machines then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnorton Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 Don't know, I think they mainly use H&E. I was told this was bought for a trip to India but was surplus to requirements as he wanted something with a bit more power for tandem use. Spent a very long time trying to decide which motor to go for. I wanted the lightest possible; I know there are people who will say the weight isn't an issue as the wing takes it once your moving but as a newbie I think a lot is about confidence and I don't feel confident about running forwards over rough ground with a motor that is any heavier than it needs to be. I had looked at the smaller caged Top80 but was told that with my revolution on fast trim it wouldn't have enough power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazer1981 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Whats your weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnorton Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 75kg, so top end of the recommended weight for the top 80 1250 and bottom of range for the 1400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazer1981 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Ok so i see where your coming from. Im a cuddly 105kgs so will be looking at the top end motor on any make that i choose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neders Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Hi Jon I have got a PAP ros 1400 and I am 5'6". At first I found the size of the cage a problem,as a beginner,I found cage and feet were touching the ground at the same time on landing.I fitted a 115 prop to give more prop - cage clearance but was very disapointed with the performance after a 125 prop so I changed back to a 125 prop.After checking the manual for my Revolution wing I found the brake line length was 6" too long so I shortened them (after consulting the dealer)and now I find landings a lot more controlled and no problem with the frame touching the ground.I just make sure I am well out of the seat and try to lean forward on landing,feeling for the ground with the back foot. Hope this helps,if not buy one of farmer daves flat-tops and land on the skids. Alistair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer_Dave Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Like Farmer Dave did, a few times. I lean forward on landings too. Big improvement. Helps the flare and ready to run rather than skidding and falling backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 If I were a few kg lighter then A 1400 cage PAP Top 80 or an H&E R80 would be top of my list. For a newbie you require adequate thrust (too much can be dangerous until you know how to handle it) but most importantly light weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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