MosterZ

On 04/04/2019 at 02:01, Mitchg said:

Did you really use speedbar with the trims in? Have you read the manual? You need to release trims to at least 6 before using speedbar.

trims out mate ...

On 21/02/2019 at 09:22, Mark Morgan said:

I would still go for a GTR  try a 22m @145kg 

There is alot of things going on when flying slalom it is nothing like flying around your local field.. Your so close to the ground and one simple mistake will put you in the water.  New pilots can get focused on the pylon trying to make the turn and will pull to much and cause a flat spin or hit the brakes when on bar.. Modern High end wings are not forgiving!! a couple of inches of brake pull while on bar and you WILL have a collapse...    The GTR although now old it is very forgiving fairly fast and agile.. 

 

what ever you choose good luck with the training.. 

Hi Mark, can't seem to find a GTR. but i could test out a GTS 22 , any toughts on that? 

Thanks!

Did my first flight on the snake 20 yesterday.

5% above the advised ptv range.

felt pretty good. nothing scary or ultra fast but really stable, felt like i was in control during the whole flight.

still had some lift after using the speedbar untrimmed (full power)

i tried to induce some pitch, (brake hard release) but it was almost impossible to get the snake to dive hard.

the glider stayed rock solid above my head 

the hard part was getting the glider up during launch. i really had to commit and push the A's full force with 20% trottle.

Landings were pretty smooth with 10km/h wind.

next week will try out the sirocco 2 and maybe the freeride and snake1.2

1 hour ago, Mark Morgan said:

I think you just hit the nail on the head there MosterZ... I would be walking away from your dealer straight away.. The Nuc XX a school type wing...  
If you do not want to take advice from this forum why don't you contact Ramon himself and explain you'r experience to him, tell him the wing you fly and what wing he thinks you should be using taking into account your limited flying experience. 

Don't get me wrong, i do appreciate the advice on this forum. it helped to be skeptical about avertments from others.

But i also see guys going for a snake after 150+ hours on the motor but the're unable to do a spotlanding, wingover or spiral and are scared to death when they feel a thermal, they just want a fast wing and they seem to do ok on the snake, even with an occasional butt landing.

i believe it's more a personal choice and a wing should match the type of flying.

I still didn't made up my mind and will try to feel for myself which wing would be suitable to hang on for the years to come.

all those different opinions are clouding my judgement 

Most instructors are telling me the snake 1.2 is a ok all rounder ,not very scary, fast but safe and stable. the snakeXX/warp/Hadron on the other hand are hot potatos. The NucleonXX would be more a schooltype wing.

guess i'll take in all info left and right and make up my mind after a profound test flight.

2 hours ago, Lee Jackson said:

I'm now flying the 22m Snake 1.2

Do you regret buying the 22 instead of a 20? My dealer is telling me that a 20 is more suitable even with 145 take off weight. He also suggests buying a snake and not a nucleonxx,  snake would have better passive safety and better stability in turbulence. Basically saying that the snake would be a perfect all around wing. The only difficulty would be mastering the flare on landings.

About the GTR,  can't seem to get my hands on one. Dealer telling me it has being replaced by GTX 

1 hour ago, Lee Jackson said:

I'm also at 135-145Kg all up and have been flying the Nuc xx 24m for the last couple of years. Its been great. TBH I could also have got away with the 22m.

what size do you have on the snake1.2? (i will be testing 1 soon)

I don't expect much after 1 week training course , but i believe i could start learning the basics and the right technique for slalom flying.

now i hope the nucXX would be the right tool for the job.

I have 135kg (145kg full gear, filled tank) take of weight, should i go for the 24 or 26?

3 minutes ago, AndyB said:

I love flying Bornos, just 90 minutes from me. I am in Spain until mid October.

Nice Andy,

we will be at the lake a whole week, exact date not known yet.

12 minutes ago, AndyB said:

When are you going to Bornos? 

in October 

http://www.ramonmorillas.com/cursos/cursodeslalomclasicodeparamotor-eng.pdf

On 11/02/2019 at 12:33, Mark Morgan said:

 jumping onto any snake with 50 hours is crazy IMO... 

....

why are you changing? what are you looking for in the next wing that your old one doesn't do for you?...   

 

next to my (88flights) 50h PPG i have about (70 flights)60hrs paragliding experience (Pg XC licence IPP5),

but yes, as i said.. the Snake would maybe be a leap too far.

I would like my next wing to be

-faster (i was flying most of the time on the bar trying to keep up(buddy on snakeXX with trims on 3))

-more agile meaning it needs to bank harder with less effort.(2d steering)

(i'm going to Bornos to participate a beginner slalom training, so i want the wing more or less suited for that)

-suited for long Xc flights, turbulent proof, decent speed untrimmed w/o bar.

-good climb rate >3m/s ( moster 185+)

What i liked about the spyder :

-easy inflation, lightweight wing, forgiving handling, fun thermalling

what i disliked:

-the amount of brake to pull to get a decent bank angle, even with the 2d, steering upgrade it felt like it didn't want to turn and just likes to fly straight.

-small pitch oscillations (rocking) in turbulent air, when other wings cuts right trough.

-not suited for acro moves and higher G forces because of the lightweight fabric.

-the speed w/o bar

-sloooow climb rate 1-1.5m/s (nitro 200 full throttle)

so i'm considering a NucleonXX, will be testing out the sirroco2 and snake1.2 also soon.

other sugestions?

Isn't the sirocco a step down from the nucleon xx?

The spyder is the lightweight version of the roadster 2 from ozone.  Beginner / intermediate.

The nucleonxx maybe would be a better choice for me, but I was told it didn't behave well in turbulent air. 

How is the speed of the nucleonxx compared to the snake 1.2? And why do you prefer it for xc? fuel efficiency?

how is the climb rate compaired to the snake?

hey,

looking for a upgrade after 50h on the spyder.

i dropped my eye on the snake as a turbulence proof fast all around wing with high fun ratio , but people telling me its maybe a too big leap comming from the spyder.

looking for 

-fast wing

-passive safety

-2d steering

any thoughts?

greetings

I actually don't know. My PPG school only supports Adventure and they don't like other brands flying there. so i'm kinda forced to buy adventure..

The thing with adventure is that they just launched their latest models but without any marketing or demonstration video's. 

(some bad quality pictures a 2 line sales pitch and thats about it)

so its very difficult to see what they really have to offer. 

So what i know about this Primus model 

26Kg dry weight (less with titanium exhaust)

eole 135 motor (any good?)

any toughts on the 3D bars system ?

no info on torque compensation.

electric starter

25hp 75 thrust

posibility to upgrade to a higher model (by just paying the price difference)

the pluma is full carbon and 21Kgs dry weight(but dont really like the carbon arms)

Hey,

Any toughts on the new Primus ?

comes with

Concentrated technology at a compacted price
A full range for every pilot from € 4’160 to € 4’990*

2 kg lighter than our previous model with mobile swing arms and with a centre of gravity reminiscent of the Pluma much closer to the pilot, making it more comfortable on the ground.

The foot of the chassis and all the propellers are in carbon as standard. The comfort tubes eliminate vibrations and guarantee an optimal propeller alignment and cohesion between the harness and the chassis.

With exclusive Adventure "3D system",
the lateral swing arm bars movement can be locked or unlocked.
Locked position: Comfort Mode, recommended for novice pilots.
Unlocked position: Dynamic Sport Mode for more dynamic piloting, which allows for active piloting with the harness, enabling the true potential of the paramotoring wing.

http://www.paramoteur.com/doc/Catalog-Primus-EN-A5.pdf

http://www.paramoteur.com/en/paramotor-ppg.php

Isnt 8000 euros,9500 dollars or 7000 pond a lot of money for this unit ??!

they say its light weight .. but not lighter then the competition

pluma eole 135 vs nitro 200

22.6Kg vs 21kg

24hp vs 28hp

135cc vs 197cc

70kg thrust vs 75kg trust

no clutch vs clutch

8400 euro vs 5750 euro

also .. no torque compensation and the harnas seems bulky

i think the primus is a better choice , then again ... its 27kg..