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7 hours ago, Neilzy said:

I fitted one of these a few years back I fitted it to a Kobra converting it from a low hang point to a high hang point. Kobra was a bit like a PAP and it fitted no problems at all, I flew it twice and was comfortable and spacious for me and worked ok. 

Thanks for your replying.

I am planning to replace of a new harness for my paramotor, the old was also apco brand(ten years ago),  it is said the apco  universal harness can fit for any paramotor frame.

Is there anyone used apco universal harness for paramotor?

apco introduction following:

Above all we took care so the harness has all necessary provision to be adapted to virtually any paramotor frame on the market – both for low and high hook in points.
Then we made sure that the harness was even more comfortable with longer and generously padded shoulder straps. Side pockets were added and the harness was made to be universal – one size fits all with zipper expander (zipper closed S/M size, zipper open L/XL size).

clutch is  good option,   

though my engine is  hirth F33,without clutch and  reduction. it helps landing safty and launch easily.

Fuel consumption test results:

4000 rpm = 2,25 l/h

5000 rpm = 2,66 l/h

5500 rpm = 3,27 l/h

6000 rpm = 4,80 l/h

7000 rpm = 6,74 l/h

7900 rpm = 8,57 l/h

Nitro 200  Engine ，Thrust test results:

72kg thrust with 125cm propeller, standard fit.

74kg thrust with 130cm propeller

80kg thrust in XL version.

air conception Nitro 200  Engine:

200cc. 2 Stroke. 40:1 synthetic oil.

28hp @ 8100 rpm. 

1:2.7 belt drive. 

Nylock long life pull start.

11.3kg engine with steel exhaust.

Double compression joint exhaust.

Exhaust has built in dB reduction.

Carbon fiber silencer.

Advanced internal & external engine cooling.

Anti slip triple belt life technology.

All bolts thread locked and position marked.

Tuned for linear throttle response.

base following rule:

1: user guider book must specify them.

2: the power came down evidently.

my engine is F33( Germany hirth ),over 200 hours,the power is little down.

I think apco kama SP may fit for you based 17 hrs, thrust may be more advanced for you.

I have been flying GIN bolera III for over 100 hr, over 200 times taking off. now I turned to Apco kama SP. kama SP is a little more advanced than kama or GIN Bolera III, and thrust is more adavnced than kama SP.

total take off 108kg without fuel

GIN bolera III M szie(85-105kg)

hirht F33 (directly driving proper 80cm)

Thanks for replying.

Based suggestions,140 fits for free fly, and 160 fits for paramotor.

I few GIN bolera III, M size(85-105kg), my total weight of taking off(paramotor) is 111kg,over 6kg.

The landing is quick while nil wind, so I am planning to choice a big range.

I am planning to buy a powerply sting for paramotor and free fly , I weight 73kg, and my paramotor weight 27kg, what size I should choice, Sting 140 or sting 160?

I cite specification following for reference:

Sting 140 : DHV take off weight(kg) 80-105 ; DULV take off weight(kg) 80-140 ; wing weights 6kg

Sting 160: DHV take off weight(kg) 95-125 ; DULV take off weight(kg) 95-160 ; wing weights 6kg

my opionio is "going for a smaller one and be on the heavier side of it's weight range".

e.g GIN bolera III M size (85-105kg), the good range is 100--105kg

Hi, Miro

Here are serveral engines test, you may refer them. those experiment gave the relationship about the thrust, proper, pilot weight ,fuel Consumption etc. you weight 85kg and is Category STANDARD. I think 20 HP engine(at least) fit you,such as ros 125,M25 .

PPG buyer's guide

http://www.ojovolador.com/ppg/tables/standard.html

G6 is popular in China, and fit for light weight pilots.

pitch should match up to cruise speed of paramotor. If pitch is too small, the thrust will decrease rapidly while you run for taking off,and you cann't fily.

I used Gin Bolero III(M size) to fly both paraglider and paramotor, though it's a paraglider wing, the user handbook says it's also for paramotor. the max load is 105kg, the paramotor load is 108kg,over 3 kg. when nil wind, the sink rate is big.

So, I think you had better read the user handbook of your wing,and if it say it can be used for paramotor. If so, you may fly for paramotor,unless cann't do it. it had better that paramotor load isn't over the max load of the wing.

your paramotor exceeds the max load too much, and it's dangerous for landing while nil wind based my experience.

about F33 noise ,yes, on average it has more heavy.

Flying in the sky, the RMP is only 4100 or so.

taking off and climbing, RMP 7500--8000.

Hirth engine is famous for the its reliable and long life in the world. BOD is 1000 hours.

I have a F33 AS engine(30HP with hirth's exhaust), I used it as an engine of my paramotor, no reduction, directly drive proper (diameter 80CM),F33 AS weigts 12.7kg, exhaust weights 2.1kg , reduction weigts 2.3kg. RMP over 8000, and thrust is 60kg nearly.For me(73kg),the thrust is enough.

advantages of directly drive proper without reduction:

1: light weigt, my paramotor weight 24kg(no fuel)

2: RMP of proper responses variety of throttle quickly

3: short framework, portable and transport

shortcoming of directly drive proper without reduction:

1: efficiency of engine isn't the best

when apply ppg risers in wing(GIN bolero III), I have following experience,pls reference:

1:wing becomes reflex, turning-round is more easy;

2:you shuld run more quick in order to avoid deflation while handing wing under ground;

3: if wind is almost nil, taking off (ppg mode) is more easy. but changing to pg mode while landing, stall velocity of wing become samll in PG mode.

I fly paramotor with GIN bolero III(M size,85-105kg, wing weights 6.0kg，produced in 2007 ), total weight while taking off is about 108kg(with 4L gasoline,without reserve).

I weigt 71kg, paramotor weigt 24kg , over that down limitation 3kg. it's a little hard touchdown ground when wind is below 2m/s.

The user guide of GIN bolero III sayes that the pilot of GIN company uses gin bolero III to fly paramotor,and it's ok.

BTW, I buy the paramotor riser from my instructor, I use paramotor riser mode to take off while wind is almost nil, but in general, I take off with paraglider riser mode. I think it's more stable than paramotor riser mode.

During the flying, I would fly more quickly by means of changing to paramotor riser mode.

hope my experience to help you.

I fly paramotor with GIN bolero III(M size,85-105kg,6.0kg), total weight is about 108kg(with 4L gasoline,without reserve, I weigt 71kg, paramotor weigt 24kg), over that down limitation 3kg. it's a little hard touchdown ground when wind is below 2m/s.

bolero plus and bolero III are "brother" and same code size.

Tom weights 90kg,it's not proper to choice M size to be paramotor according to my experience.It had better to select XL Size(115-130kg,6.8kg, 90kg+30kg+6.8kg+3.2kg(reserve，APCO Mayday 20,3.2kg)=130kg).

On the other hand, it's little light for you to fly free paraglider(90kg+6.8kg+15kg(harness)＋3.2kg(reserve)=115kg), may bring water bag if wind is breeze.

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Just looked a bit harder and the medium is 85kg-105kg so a 90kg me and a 30?kg motor is going to be well over the top end of the weight range