marko330

no probs si

i didnt think your orange banger would make it all the way up here anyways

what ya filming ?

marko

And, even after your instructor has explained it to you, you will still find it hard to believe until you have experienced thermic flying for yourself. The sheer power and ferocity of a stonking great thermal truly beggars belief. You can get catapulted skywards whilst your balls beg for mercy. And your vario, instead of giving a nice pleasant, reassuring 2-up beep-beep, will scream at you like the banshee from hell, scaring the living piss out of you. And that's assuming the thermal has chosen to take ALL of your wing with it. Only the very skilled cross-country boys/girls who need to brave out the mid-day stuff in search of the big distances will be out at noon. Oh, and the very stupid

love it ! a proper explanation

should of bought flymeccs rich lol

sorry this is the lastest link for the big one ii fly in at hull aero club.

not last years post !

anybody needing more info please text me on 07561482499 and i will call you back {crap signal}

marko

nice one mark

it will ne good to catch up matey

see you soon

cheers al

It's Parafly.co.uk if you put .com in it goes to the Spanish one cheers Alan.

sound will do

thanx

HOW DO YOU PUT PICS ON SIMON ?

so its that time of yoer and so here we are again !

that time of year that the folks up the east side of yorkshire deciede to let you lot in on there humble little patch !

yep youve guessed it

its time for the......

HAC paramotor section "THE BIG ONE II"

and if last year was anything to go by then this years gona be an even better party fly in long weekend !

the dates are the 31-5 so nicley ties in with the bank holidays

there will as last year, be madness, beer and flying (not perticulatly in that order of course)

there again also be onsite camping, food, toilets, free land out recovery, music and errm lets not forget the nights entertainment full nite club spec disco complete with smoke machines and lazers !!!! (p.s we actually got a written warning from the environmental health people for noise pollution to the nabouring village nearly 2 miles away last year !!! } happy days

yep, i can certainly asure you a good time was had by all (see pics below}

http://s1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii550/marko330/

and yes folks that really is in the middle of the field !!!!

details can be found on parafly.com and Manchester paragliders etc

but if you need more info ping me and ill send you a flyer

which should be below

HULL AERO CLUB PARAMOTOR SECTION WOULD LIKE TO INVITE FELLOW PILOTS TO

"THE BIG ONE II"

May 31 - 4 June at

HULL AREA CLUB NEAR BEVERLY

on site hot food and drinks

on site camping

on site toilets

rave on Saturday night

mini adventure xc's to popular locations and coast, land n bacon butty then return back to site.

free out land collection service

small fun comps ( nothing serious )

and much much more so pass the word around

£20 per pilot,none flying members and kids free

local shops within walking distance

Beverly and the coast only a five min car ride

all welcome trikes n all !

so please please please pass the word around

any trade stands are more than welcome at no extra cost !

so are you gona drag your arse up this time simon ?

anyone got sticky grape marks email or would be kind enough to please pass the event details on to him that would be great

let me know if your coming guys

ta ta for now

marko

so its that time of yoer and so here we are again !

that time of year that the folks up the east side of yorkshire deciede to let you lot in on there humble little patch !

yep youve guessed it

its time for the......

HAC paramotor section "THE BIG ONE II"

and if last year was anything to go by then this years gona be an even better party fly in long weekend !

the dates are the 31-5 so nicley ties in with the bank holidays

there will as last year, be madness, beer and flying (not perticulatly in that order of course)

there again also be onsite camping, food, toilets, free land out recovery, music and errm lets not forget the nights entertainment full nite club spec disco complete with smoke machines and lazers !!!! (p.s we actually got a written warning from the environmental health people for noise pollution to the nabouring village nearly 2 miles away last year !!! } happy days

yep, i can certainly asure you a good time was had by all (see pics below}

file:///C:/Users/DELL%20HYBRID/Downloads/me%20hac.JPG[/img]

and yes folks that really is in the middle of the field !!!!

details can be found on parafly.com and Manchester paragliders etc

but if you need more info ping me and ill send you a flyer

which should be below

HULL AERO CLUB PARAMOTOR SECTION WOULD LIKE TO INVITE FELLOW PILOTS TO

"THE BIG ONE II"

May 31 - 4 June at

HULL AREA CLUB NEAR BEVERLY

on site hot food and drinks

on site camping

on site toilets

rave on Saturday night

mini adventure xc's to popular locations and coast, land n bacon butty then return back to site.

free out land collection service

small fun comps ( nothing serious )

and much much more so pass the word around

£20 per pilot,none flying members and kids free

local shops within walking distance

Beverly and the coast only a five min car ride

all welcome trikes n all !

so please please please pass the word around

any trade stands are more than welcome at no extra cost !

so are you gona drag your arse up this time simon ?

anyone got sticky grape marks email or would be kind enough to please pass the event details on to him that would be great

let me know if your coming guys

ta ta for now

marko

dooohhh ! yea found it as soon as I left this thread

thanks anywhos

it's been a long day

marko

so where's the flyin at ?

marko

hi rich

i know it would of been a small number, but how did they flymecc carbon fair up in the survey ?

just wondered how people were receiving them generally

cheers

marko

any further with the results ?

does any one know what the starter motor is off that they fit to the h&e 220 ? ie scooter engine equivalent ?

i have a lazy starter and would expect they will be top money new ! or are they ?

marko

“you should work for the police or my missus as shes always trying to catch me out too”

Just pointing out the mistakes you make, which was either to mislead the readers or an attempt to discredit me.

“no need to revert to profanity's mate "bullshit" “

Sorry Mate, but that’s our motto “Bulldog Not Bullshit” I will try my hardest not to use it again.

“its simple, you build and sell bulldogs therefore there the best thing since sliced bread and better than any other paramotor on the planet”

Have never said this. These are your words and I thank you for them.

“were as i fly flymecc which as i said before is a great machine ! i didnt say said your bulldog wouldn't pick me up ff the ground or fly a reflex wing, and i would love to try one out to see what there like if anybody has one near me.”

If you reread my posts you will see I made NO reference to the Flymecc not being able to fly me. I just stated that the two Sky engine machines I owned didn’t perform as I was hoping and only just flew me. The only caparison I made between the two marks was I believe our frame is a stronger in design and Alan (Flymecc owner) backed this up with “i have no doubt that the bulldog frame is more rigid than the Flymecc carbon frame” every thing else I mentioned was complementary and suggested customers tried. Can’t be fairer than that.

“re hull aero club yep you got me there ! ddoww of course im at hull aero club it dont take a genius to work that one out with all the videos on there, i was simply joking when i said i wasnt there. please dont dob me into the caa”

Oh, I see the joke now, must admit you got me there Regarding the CAA, they are reactive not proactive. They wait until you’ve had an incident then throw the book at you.

“would you be up for the thrust test thing ? i would, winner supplies a beer for all attending”

I wish all motors where thrust tested more at events. That way we might get rid of the Bullshit (sorry that word again) claims manufactures make about static performance, thus hopefully giving the buying public the information they deserve. And I don’t need an excuse for a good piss-up.

“come on clive smile lifes too short”

Mark I do smile plenty and my friends regularly inform me that I am living the dream. Please don’t assume from my posts that I am a miserable git, because when we meet, we will most probably discover that our online image is different to what’s being portrayed here. I just don’t like being accused of saying something I didn’t or being dragged into a Bullshit (and again) campaign to hoodwink customers. In my world a spade is a spade.

having just spoken to clive on the phone seems we both got off on the wrong foot !

sorry clive

now please dont send the boys round mate

only joking !

on a serious note, sorry buddy didnt mean to put the bulldog down in anyway, just wanted the flymecc to get a fair trial.

thanks

marko

“the reason the motors arnt in any other paramotors is because enrico will not let them be put into other motors. As he already has a winning package he does not want anyone pimping off his hard work”

http://www.skyengines.com/en-us/?chiave ... ns-engines

Marko seems the Sky 100 engine is fitted to plenty of other machines (ten or more), so your first bit of wrong misleading information.

“A bit naughty you putting the flymecc down like that with out even having flown one!”

Never claimed I had flown a Flymecc other than owning two machines that had the Sky 100 engines fitted to them. First being a Fly Castelluccio (which was later exchanged for a Simonini) and then a Kobra Venom when I was the UK dealer. Like both of those models haven’t put them down either. Only commented on the engine performance! But to be fair by your own words you started the whole comparison thing without ever flying a Bulldog!

“But don’t take my word for it come down and have a go i havent got anything to hide, have you ?”

If I get the opportunity to have a go then I will gladly take you up on that offer to understand the difference between the engines I’ve flown (which where all three bladed versions), as I must confess your ass does look bigger than mine and it seems to be getting you off the ground.

Your second bit of misleading information came from stating you weren’t flying the quad in the UK, when I can see clearly the runway markings of Hull Aero Club in the background! I know it may seem petty but are you normally in the habit of misleading people and telling them what you want them to hear?

You (including your counter parts) jumped onto this thread way before me with your stark comparisons without making clear your vested interest in Flymecc and the club/school you run.

From the outset I have not mentioned Flymecc, I advised the poster to get training first unlike your biased barrage of comparisons. I’ve also advised pilots to fly the products they are interested in and make their own conclusions to what they want without bias from others with hidden agendas, as stated in my original post and clearly showing that I am from Bulldog Paramotors.

Quote “Andy.

The age-old question to which is the best machine? Well the truthfully answer is that it all depends on who's field you are stood on!

There is commercial bias, loyalties to schools/dealers and information from pilots with either low hours or limited experience of flying/owning other brands.

My advice to anyone new is to first focus on getting good training. Use the school kit to start with, as this will take the pressure off and allow you to concentrate on the most important aspect of our sport, learning to fly safely.

Clive

http://www.bulldogparamotors.co.uk”

So if you want to continue with the Bullshit and turn this thread into a product war then carry on by yourself, as Im not interested and have better things to invest my time in.

Safe Flying.

Regards

Clive

Bulldog Paramotors

you should work for the police or my missus as shes always trying to catch me out too

no need to revert to profanity's mate "bullshit"

its simple,

you build and sell bulldogs therefore there the best thing since sliced bread and better than any other paramotor on the planet

were as i fly flymecc which as i said before is a great machine ! i didnt say said your bulldog wouldn't pick me up ff the ground or fly a reflex wing, and i would love to try one out to see what there like if anybody has one near me.

re hull aero club

yep you got me there ! ddoww

of course im at hull aero club it dont take a genius to work that one out with all the videos on there, i was simply joking when i said i wasnt there.

please dont dob me into the caa

would you be up for the thrust test thing ? i would, winner supplies a beer for all attending

come on clive smile lifes too short

marko

Pete B has a sexy rig

SW

So I have

hi pete

would you bring it to simons winter flyin ? as i will be attending with my trusty flymecc complete with its 168hrs on it

i wasnt in the uk

marko

its just how we are up here

hairy backs and all !

its murder doing a bum landing with your tackle draggin below

ooops i knew i shouldnt have had them three cans off redbull

Clive and Pete b,

First of all thanks for your reply Clive, Pete b Clive states that it struggled for want of a better word with a pilot of 95kg now Clive does say he had the sky engine not the Paramotor so i don't know what set up he had when he was testing the engines and also Pete I have not stated anything about the bulldog as I have never flown one, the only Bulldog that I have seen is Paul Kilburns and he must weigh 9 stone sopping wet.

But back to your point does it struggle with climb rate or on the speedbar neither of you know that because neither of you have flown an actual Flymecc Carbon or have you?

With out sounding arsey when the original poster put this thread on he asked for opinions and facts re read what I have written I did not tell him to buy a Flymecc or a Bulldog I just gave facts regarding my machine, so when I saw Clives comments regarding his experience with an engine I had to comment.

All debate is good debate, so to recap for the poster these are the facts regarding the Flymecc ; I weigh all up 110kgs I have flown this year just over 100 hours on my machine at heights up to 6500' I fly with the two piece carbon prop and my machine does not struggle although it has not got the climb rate of my previous machine a Parajet Macro

Hi Alan

What Make and size wing do you fly with and where abouts in the weight range are you?

What is your climb rate?

The only reason I ask is that a lot of pilots now are flying light on their wings to get a better climb rate, economy, and to go on bar with out having to scream the motor.

And as we all know the lighter a wing is loaded the more it is susceptible to collapse in turbulent weather (ie not dangerous)

Set up would make very little difference to thrust a motor is producing.

I have seen all the differing motors at Clives unit that he has tried in his quest to get a lightish motor with good thrust and that is also reliable.

How many other paramotor manufacturers are using this engine?

Quite a few are now using the Polini and Moster due to their thrust/weight/reliability.

I suppose what Im asking is if its so good why arent the motors in ,more machines

They have got the water cooled system right as this is very much better than air cooled for sure.

Pete

the reason the motors arnt in any other paramotors is because enrico will not let them be put into other motors. as he already has a winning package he does not want anyone pimping off his hard work

i actually squirted a little wee out when i read about the flymecc not having anough power to climb !!!!!

come on !

heres a little sum for you

me = 109 kg naked

my gear = extra large reserve 6kg

my instruments = 4 kg

my flying suit and gear 7kg

my helmet (large lol) 2kg

my headset 2kg

total 130kg

now heres the good bit

MY TRIKE ATTACHMENT 9kg

grand total 139 kg

and thats without the weight of the motor

and i have no problem with climb rate or altitude

if fact this saturday i got a personal best of 10030 feet and videoed it ! {on a jojo instinct wing and foot launched)

here i am on the my flymecc + trike flying my dakota sport wing (which is badged 140kg max load) so defo not light on it

[youtubevideo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lx94ghXocQ[/youtubevideo]

doesnt look to be "struggling" much does it mate ?

a bit naughty you putting the flymecc down like that with out even having flown one !

fly one, then pass comment.

thats what i normally do

the motor is mega reliable and looks sooooo good

but dont take my word for it come down and have a go i havent got anything to hide, have you ?

i posted earlier that i know some one that went had a look at a bull dog and also a flymecc, when he spoke to the bulldog dealer to say he was going to look at a flymecc the dealer stated exactly the same thing as you. in that he had been over to italy and the flymecc wouldnt lift him off the ground ! funny that i remember thinking to my self thats a bit naughty

i put these worrys to bed straight away, been a fat bloke i just simply clipped my flymecc on my back and showed the guy just how well the mecc climbed out

also you compare to the pap ros

i had a pap ros the same time as owning the flymecc and in know way did i feel the power was more than the mecc, if anything the mecc felt more refined than the ros. more linear with the power delivery and far more easy to start

not mentioning any names

but at our fly in somebody put a bulldog on there back and did a thrust test

then clipped a flymecc carbon pro on and did the same

turns out flymecc felt a little more powerful !

another thing i know, that if you rang paul from yorkshire paramotors and asked him about the bull dog he wouldnt start putting it down just to try get a sale as hes a good guy and there aint many of them about, the real deal, he would simply tell the customer to contact there nearest bulldog dealer and ask them what they were like or for them to request a test flight on one if poss

i got an idea

lets do a thrust test just to put this to bed what do ya say ?

i know i get 59-60kgs out of mine for defo

but i will openly use anyone else's test rig to prove

let me know

marko

[youtubevideo]

Hello all,

I don't know anything about the Bulldog so I can only comment on my Flymecc which has proved itself to be ultra reliable.

As I have previosly said my last motor was a Parajet macro which I was also very impressed with but between the two I replaced a few parts on the Macro costing a fair few pounds where as the Flymecc has had nothing but the service parts spent on it a radiator on warranty and a split hose getting the old one off.

All in all the Flymecc has now flown more hours than the Parajet and apart from the hose and service bits it has cost me nothing.

In summary the Flymecc is an outstanding Paramotor and I can not wait to test fly the 200cc version. Ps test fly them it's the best way to decide

paul at yorkshire paramotors has a test flymecc to try in leeds

Are you a dealer for fly mecc markco????? every post you put up is the same

You sound like me with Baileys....

Why not look at the V5

lol

just like you my friend i love the machine i fly !

flymecc !

170hrs on mine now without any probs baring an exhaust gasket at around 110hrs {my own fault for not re tightening the silencer nuts at 100hr service} but flymecc sent me one straight out no problem anyway

flymecc's not only better looking but more powerful compacts down smaller for transport and just keeps on going and going and going !

not dissing the english products though

but have a look at the bull dog then have a look at the flymecc, "simples !"

you can even have a look at mine if you are any were near.

that goes for anyone who would like a go on it, just to put a few careless whispers to bed

unsure what warranty the bull dog has guys ? one or two years ?

i know the mecc carry's a 2 year no qwibles warranty on frame and engine

has anyone flow a mecc yet to compair to the bull dog ?

i know someone that did and he bought a flymecc

can send you his email if you want to have a word with him

cheers

marko