Steve Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I'm off on a flying trip and am looking for a spare prop to take. Not having used wood since my training days, I am expecting reduced thrust but the price for a back-up prop is good, assuming the quality is okay. Has anyone used a wooden prop from here?: http://paramotorpropeller.com/Polini/default.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganers Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I had a carbon one from them that was spot on. I'm after a wooden one for a simmo min+2 the said a couple of weeks and £140. I'm also looking at paraprops at moment. Cheers Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 I had a carbon one from them that was spot on. I'm after a wooden one for a simmo min+2 the said a couple of weeks and £140. I'm also looking at paraprops at moment. Cheers Lee. Thanks Lee. I've just realised that they are in fact Paraglider Shop in Sussex and I've bought a carbon prop from them before too, they have this separate site for props. The wooden ones have to be ordered from Thailand but they do keep most of the Hy Fly carbon props in stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeakin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hello I now have a business that is specialising in the supply of propellers for paramotors, ParamotorPropeller.com. We stock carbon fibre propellers in the U.K. and wooden propellers in Thailand, later this year we will also stock Helix carbon fibre propellers in Thailand which we will get direct from the Helix factory in Thailand. I am looking for a buyer for the business ‘ParaShop.co.uk’ if anyone is interested in a running a small reselling business that and can be run part time or grown into a full time business, then I am open to offers around £2000 plus stock. PM me if interested. Paul D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I would never use an Aftermarket Prop that was not recommended by your Paramotor Manufacture. If you have a new motor and use a Cheap Copy prop and you blow your engine up your Warranty will be Void!!!! There CHEAP for a reason!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Fair point Morgy. The wooden prop would only have been for use in case of emergency so it wouldn't be a permanent fixture on the machine. The Hy Fly carbon prop has been hard to differentiate from a Helix prop though (has been on the machine since last summer), but is a lot cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeakin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Cheap for a reason – Lower manufacturing costs, smaller mark ups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Poor Quality Less thrust Half price Bargin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeakin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Poor Quality Less thrust Half price Bargin... This is often not the case. Quality is often better than some propellers supplied by paramotor manufacturers (depending on which they are supplying). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilzy Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Have to say the prop I bought from Paul is excellent and was almost half the price!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Each to there own!!! There are people who buy yingtang parts for there Honda/Audi and there are people who buy genuine parts.. don't forget the cheap sh1t tyres you can buy off ebay.. Yes they work But when you need to stop Good luck!! Paramotoring is no different... I personally would not touch one of those TAG paramotors... Yes they work and will get you in the air.. BUT Same with the Cheap Props... I have seen a fair few cheap props... NONE of them come close to the Quailty and performance of Helix or E-props.. My Standards are Obviously higher than others.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeakin Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Nobody is suggesting it is a good idea to use cheap poor quality propellers, but I am suggesting that there are alternative propellers that are as good and in some cases better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganers Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 From personal experience they all break the same! Unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Same with the Cheap Props... I have seen a fair few cheap props... NONE of them come close to the Quailty and performance of Helix or E-props..: I know of several people (including myself) who use Hy Fly props bought from Paraglider Shop and they have all been fine, well balanced and match the profile of Helix perfectly but are substantially cheaper. In fact my starter handle went through mine a few weeks ago and it is fine despite the noise at the time from which I expected to find just tattered remains of the prop. Have you seen any problems with Hy Fly props Morgy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Hi Steve No to your question.. I've not come across HY props... In my experience cheaper props don't come up to the standard of Helix Or E-props. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FixFrenchFlyer Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 In my experience, the Hi-Fly propellers I bought for my Fly 100 Evo and, later on, for my Polini Thor 100, were better than the Helix I originally had for both: they were lighter, felt like delivering slightly more thrust and fuel consumption also was slightly lighter. Some friends fly with e-props NG and they are even better as far as I can tell... But I guess they also are a lot more expensive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauldeakin Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 It seems Morgy has been to the Dell Schanz school of marketing where they teach; only the stuff I sell is awesome, the best, everything else is crap, even though I have never even seen it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I never said your props were crap... I said from my experience Cheap props are not worth the money... I still stand by that, I would happily change my ming if i was proven wrong with close up inspection and thrust testing... Paul If you would like to send me a prop to fit a moster or a V5/V5S i would happily get it thrust tested and let you know the results... So please don't tar me with the same brush as Dell I wish i still had the photos of an E-prop that was blasted by small Isle of wight shingle when foot dragging for over 300-400 meters.. This prop took a hell of a beating.. And i would place money that a cheap prop would not have with stood this Battering.... I think i have video Now going to hunt it out!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Paul, The props Pete and I have had from you are bang on mate! I hope we don't need to buy any more from you but if we do, I will gladly accept the lower price for what seems identical to the Helix ones we also have SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I don't know why the quality has dropped but your get the idea... This machine/Prop took a massive beating and managed to cross the solent and home safely... It was down slightly on power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Anyone thinking about buying a Prop that is not Spec'ed by your Engine/Paramotor manufacture My advice would be Speak to them and ask them the question "If my engine blows up with a none genuine prop am i covered under warranty" Please let me know the answer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I am 99% sure that Parajet would not void a warranty on a machine because someone used an after market prop. (assuming of course that is was the correct size and pitch) In fact, anyone who would void a warranty for this reason would be a dick in my opinion. I do get what your saying Morgy, but this is not the motor industry and thankfully people are not out to 'catch people out' with crappy things like that. Not everyone has the spare £100+ difference in cost to spend on a prop when they don't have to spend it. Some of them are not great (the wooden ones normally) but I have yet to buy a carbon prop and find a functional fault. The wooden one that I sent back was replaced with a decent one a week later. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Sorry simon i have too disagree there... I have had a small warranty claim on my Moster... Vitorazi wanted Photos of my machine ,Hours, RPM levels, Oil used,mixture ratio,Damage history, Photos of the prop,engine mounts, Even my inside leg measurements If i have send photos of a Ying tang prop form Outer Mongolia i can guarantee they would have voided my warranty claim No matter if it was the correct size and Pitch... Everyone these Days is trying to save a few ££ Simon... My Offer Still Stands Paul deakin... If your props are as good as you claim send me one out too try, thrust test etc. I will contact Bailey,Parajet and Vitorazi,Polini to ask about warranty issue's.. If all is good i will place an order... Can't say fairer than that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Morgy, That's your take I suppose. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 Sorry simon i have too disagree there... I have had a small warranty claim on my Moster... Vitorazi wanted Photos of my machine ,Hours, RPM levels, Oil used,mixture ratio,Damage history, Photos of the prop,engine mounts, Even my inside leg measurements Well maybe this is more about where we should be - if I call Parajet with a problem, the first question is always 'How can we help?' And that's from Jim when he was MD right through to Dan in the factory. They always just want to get you back in the air, never any interest in asking about the machine spec or hint of wriggling out of anything, quite the opposite. Everyone at Parajet has seen my Hy-Fly prop, nobody has been bothered at all.I agree with Morgy in principal but it's not black and white, I think these specific props are good, I went from a Helix prop to a Hy-Fly and I'd buy another without a second thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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