richfromwilts Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Hi I don't understand why it may be dangerous to pull a tight left hand turn under full climb at low speeds. ( against the torque). Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 At low speeds you don`t have much speed above the stall. The torque effect is putting the equivalent of some brake on the right hand side of the wing, so if you then add heavy braking on the left hand side the whole wing is being braked. This can put you dangerously close to the stall. Cheers, Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helimed01 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Hi I don't understand why it may be dangerous to pull a tight left hand turn under full climb at low speeds. ( against the torque). Richard Imagine the motor trying to turn to the right due to torque, your risers slightly twisted to the right then you pull a tight left turn, the wing turns left against the motor trying to turn right. Result = twisted risers, and the wing flying opposite to the thrust of motor. Action is to power off hands up and hope you have enough height to recover normal flight. Hope this helps. Whitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outkast Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Hi I don't understand why it may be dangerous to pull a tight left hand turn under full climb at low speeds. ( against the torque). Richard Imagine the motor trying to turn to the right due to torque, your risers slightly twisted to the right then you pull a tight left turn, the wing turns left against the motor trying to turn right. Result = twisted risers, and the wing flying opposite to the thrust of motor. Action is to power off hands up and hope you have enough height to recover normal flight. Hope this helps. Whitters. power off slowly, or you may spin right round in the opposite direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfromwilts Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Cheeeeeers Got it. Also chatted to Instructor today whilst stood around moaning about wind speed and you all agree. Simples. I did a hang check today and found that there was very little force required to twist and move paramotor 90 degrees off square. I was expecting a greater resistance to staying square. Please comment on this. Thanks for replies. Regards Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outkast Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 CheeeeeersGot it. Also chatted to Instructor today whilst stood around moaning about wind speed and you all agree. Simples. I did a hang check today and found that there was very little force required to twist and move paramotor 90 degrees off square. I was expecting a greater resistance to staying square. Please comment on this. Thanks for replies. Regards Richard the further the plane of the prop is from vertical the more tourqe effect will make its presence felt, when you do a hang check you want your motor to be leaning back just enough so that when you apply full power its sits upright, have you checked your harness is adjusted equally both sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfromwilts Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 This was my first hang check and the prop did seem to be staring down at about 25 degrees when I was hanging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Rich, We will hang you up in either a tree or a forklift and get your angle of dangle correct on your motor . The settings in the manual are normally close enough to eliminate any problems. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfromwilts Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 cheers Simon fork lift....i need a bigger wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik_Y Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 If you try to turn against the torque steering effect it could end up something like this. Some paramotors has more effect then others and it also depends on other factors how prone the gear are to this kind of reaction. But if the glider turns noticeably from torque steering then you should be careful. [youtubevideo] [/youtubevideo] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfromwilts Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 Thanks for reply. That incident looks a bit more like a parachutal stall due to a slow turn which turns downwind. And he has a shit load of left rake on. Regards Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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