dmpatanis Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hello,my friend tell me to advertise the store that he has with my paramotor. He want to write the name of the store in a big cylinder of fabric and drive it in the air. I want to help me where to connect it in my paramotor with safest way??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdEves Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I've never done it with a paramotor and can't advise on the best attachment point other than the proven foot technique but I used to run a banner towing operation so feel able to offer some general suggestions. I don't think a tube would be as effective as a sheet banner and would probably need more weight to stabilise it. If you're going for something big then the foot or grapnel pickup in flight is the only way. Don't lay the banner out in the direction of flight or you'll get all the load at once. Lay it out so you fly over (and pick up a loop attached to) the leading edge first as you fly into wind with the rest of the banner at 45 degrees upwind. You then gradually peel the banner off the ground, reducing the shock. The other way is just to concertina the banner in a heap. You should consider some sort of weak link. Remember you will drop like a stone following an engine failure so you need a way of releasing the banner quickly (foot does seem best!) Sent from Dorset on my iPad probably whilst drinking wine, lying in the sofa using PMC Forum mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo200500 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 This could be interesting, get video...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 It's illegal in the UK for us to tow things. SW Sent from my iPhone using PMC Forum mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortoise332 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hi all This sounds a bad idea to me like the old boy once said most important bit of equipment to let you down is one between your ears enough said cheers Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdEves Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Simon, are you sure? It's illegal to do it for reward. Sent from Dorset on my iPad probably whilst drinking wine, lying in the sofa using PMC Forum mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 You need a commercial pilots license to do any paid aerial work And you cannot get one for a paramotor Sent from my iPhone using PMC Forum mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdEves Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I know that Pete, I'm a commercial pilot, but I was wondering if Simon was aware of some rule about towing. As far as I'm aware I can tow anything I like from a deregulated paramotor, as long as it's a private flight. Sent from Dorset on my iPad probably whilst drinking wine, lying in the sofa using PMC Forum mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 If you're towing a big advert wouldn't that make it commercial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdEves Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Sorry, this is getting de-railed from the original question. Stevie It wouldn't be the advert that made it commercial in the UK but any 'valuable consideration' that the pilot or aircraft operator received. But anyhoo that's a whole other discussion! Sent from Dorset on my iPad probably whilst drinking wine, lying in the sofa using PMC Forum mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmpatanis Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hello as you can see in the video [youtubevideo] [/youtubevideo]from 0:30 is the cylinder that i want to made but how i can constructed and attached??? Its a good idea i think. As i can see its very safe. Thanks a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dariuszk24 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 this tube from your film looks like wind sock,with equally diameter inlet and outlet (size up to you),nothing difficult to do,you need to put some stiff ring at front and 3 or 4 attaching points with swivel ,all construction you can tie to your feet with quick realise system -just in case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I really like this Idea, One of my suppliers is a flag maker and this would be easy for them to make, if I get them to leave an area in the front end to thread a metal hoop through and rigging up some attachment points would be simple, I'm going to get one made up with my company name on the side, If you want one as well let me know I shouldn't think it would be too expensive at all. If I'm promoting my own company then I don't see it as breaking any laws regarding financial reward? Simon can you get a banner towing Smilies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdEves Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Badger. We will need video. Sent from Dorset on my iPad probably whilst drinking wine, lying in the sofa using PMC Forum mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_dunn Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 this tube from your film looks like wind sock,with equally diameter inlet and outlet (size up to you),nothing difficult to do,you need to put some stiff ring at front and 3 or 4 attaching points with swivel ,all construction you can tie to your feet with quick realise system -just in case i think there is a very subtle taper in this... in theory you'll need it to work properly... A taper will induce a pressure difference (as in a windsock) and inflate the tube. This will not be as effective on a parallel tube. In saying that, be careful not to create too much drag... Although it has been done in the video, i wouldn't recommend it. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_dunn Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Wouldn't the obvious thing to do here be to get the company logo added to the underside wing surface? i've seen this done before, and its very effective, if the graphics are large and simple. (Bear in mind that the pilot will be at least 500ft from any potential viewer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 The Tube has an anti Furl device on the end - we use them on some of the flags we sell, it's used to stop the flag whipping about in the wind and destroying the trailing edge, this would mean that you could keep the tube straight not tapered and create less drag. Video and Photos of progress and attempts will follow soon - ish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_dunn Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 If I were a betting man, id say parallel definetly wont work.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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