Fly_mow Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'm after a light weight paramotor for my dad to use to get his confidence on. He finds my pap on the heavy side and wants something that's light and runs that isn't expensive to buy or repair? Is there any such thing? Maybe an older model? And has any one got a dusty old banger tucked in the back of the shed? I want to stress it's not wanted as a seriouse flying machine. Just a training aid for a few hops up the field. Thanks peeps. Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'm after a light weight paramotor for my dad to use to get his confidence on. He finds my pap on the heavy side and wants something that's light and runs that isn't expensive to buy or repair? Is there any such thing? Maybe an older model? And has any one got a dusty old banger tucked in the back of the shed? I want to stress it's not wanted as a seriouse flying machine. Just a training aid for a few hops up the field. Thanks peeps. Stu Only thing near that is a rad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_mow Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 And they ain't great are they? But it would serve the purpose we want it for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggydec Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Parajet Titanium Compact . I ve had this machine for 4 yrs and its got 160 hrs on it . Its been tucked away in a cupboard for 2 yrs since i broke my arm ...My fault , taking off in dodgy cross winds . I ve recently repaired the cage and put a brand new piston / rings in . Fires up and runs lovely . Took it for an hours flight , and having repaired the props , they could do with balancing . Apart from that , it flies fine . You ve caught me on the hop here , as i had no intention of selling , so will take some pics tomorrow and put it on the Auction . Im asking £ 800 for it . Some spares too...Exhaust and silencer . Its a good machine for someone , and a shame to leave it in storage.... Thanks , Steve Just realised...Sounds like an advert , but its not an advert ?...But it will be tomorrow ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outkast Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Parajet Titanium Compact .I ve had this machine for 4 yrs and its got 160 hrs on it . Its been tucked away in a cupboard for 2 yrs since i broke my arm ...My fault , taking off in dodgy cross winds . I ve recently repaired the cage and put a brand new piston / rings in . Fires up and runs lovely . Took it for an hours flight , and having repaired the props , they could do with balancing . Apart from that , it flies fine . You ve caught me on the hop here , as i had no intention of selling , so will take some pics tomorrow and put it on the Auction . Im asking £ 800 for it . Some spares too...Exhaust and silencer . Its a good machine for someone , and a shame to leave it in storage.... Thanks , Steve Just realised...Sounds like an advert , but its not an advert ?...But it will be tomorrow ?? that sounds bang on Stu, tough enough to take anymore knocks your old fella mite have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggydec Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Volution Compact now in Auction.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggydec Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Oh....And its not a Dusty Old Banger !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_mow Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Sounds interesting. What's the weight of it?? That's the big thing for my dad as he didn't feel comfortable with the pap at 26kg. Either way il have a chat with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_mow Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Found the weight. 24kg? I'm thinking more under 20 and as close to 15 as poss. Might be that I'm dreaming but ya don't know till ya ask!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outkast Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Found the weight. 24kg? I'm thinking more under 20 and as close to 15 as poss. Might be that I'm dreaming but ya don't know till ya ask!! Stu as with everything in aviation, theres a trade off, anything light will almost certainly not be strong enough to take the knocks and bangs of training, buying something very light may be a false economy, light motors like the miniplane are best suited to experienced pilots, where there is much less a chance of a fall or hard landing, also most of the light motors on the market cannot be power launched as the cage is too flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer_Dave Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Lightest unit I had on my back was the top 80 miniplane. 18 kgs with good thrust 130 cm prop. Have to land on yer feet Second lightest I had on my back is my Moster Flat Top. 24.5 kgs. Forget that though. Too expensive ! Third lightest was the Walkerjet Spider with solo 210 engine. 25 kgs. Would withstand learner knocks really well without breaking props. £ 1200 if my mate still has it. Hardly flown 3 hours. Good for up to 14 stone but no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_mow Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Thanks Dave. Didn't think about the launches. It's annoying coz with a ground harness on he can launch it ( forward and reverse) and control it. Run with it, it's just the weight of the motor slows it all down and hence the wing goes astray. Worst case I can get him flying, in reality how much experience and skill is required to do tandem? I'm not thinking any time soon but it's a thought for the future. ( plus I've got three boys I'd love to take up) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Thanks Dave. Didn't think about the launches. It's annoying coz with a ground harness on he can launch it ( forward and reverse) and control it. Run with it, it's just the weight of the motor slows it all down and hence the wing goes astray. Worst case I can get him flying, in reality how much experience and skill is required to do tandem? I'm not thinking any time soon but it's a thought for the future. ( plus I've got three boys I'd love to take up) Personally I would say at least 100 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_mow Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 That sounds reasonable. I would not consider taking anyone up unless I was 100% sure. Just wondered what the average experience was before people done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Its more about being confidant that you can handle anything that happens, even some one that starts screaming and grabbing lines and risers or sits down early on take off Do you REALLY want to responsible for someone else's life ????? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I disagree with Outkast's comment about a Miniplane (+/-19Kg). I learnt to fly on a Miniplane and it was a fantastic machine to learn on, I would recommend it anybody. The great advantage of them is that because they are so light you are less likely to take a tumble. They are light enough to have on your back when ground handling. I have flown a PAP and by the time I was set up I was pretty much exhausted. They are not half as fragile as some people imagine.............I know from experience However, it would be worth getting some instruction from an instructor familiar with Miniplane. There are certain 'power launch' techniques that are not suitable with Miniplanes. ............... OK, like everybody else I like to think that my machines the best Good luck, Christian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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