stuartasutherland Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Hi All, I was flying last night with a friend who struggled to get off. We took some vid and you can see it here. http://youtu.be/sBopnyrSQFk As you can see he suffers from a frontal as the wing is coming up. This ended badly as he caught a few lines in the prop. Some info - high hangpoint, Dudek Reaction, trims on 0, speedbar attached. The only thing we can think of is the speedbar lines are too short, but he has changed nothing. He is going to check this later. Just thought I'd ask on his behalf. Thanks Stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivefreeman Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Looks like he is leaning way to far forward and pulling to much A's try pulling it up straighter (stand up straighter that is ) then pause to let the wing come up.. I had this problem on a high hang point i now run almost upright .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richwill15 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 knowing nothing, it looks indeed like propwash. but like i said. I know nuffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo200500 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Looks to me like hands are way too far forward, boxing hands? Nice clear video though Stuart!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 110% too much A line pressure for too long. More power 'and sooner' & less A's. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartasutherland Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 Thanks everybody. I'll pass it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbertflyer Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Yes - big A's - a fantastic training demo for others. The wing isn't even flying when he applies power. Get him to do this launch with the engine off. 3 successful attempts/practices to get the wing flying and then he could apply power. As a possible side issue, just check the length of the A's to the manual. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartasutherland Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 Hi Richard, I know the wing has recently been serviced and given the okay by the Loft / Aerofix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Send him down to us for a day chap... We will iron out the niggles. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonmarshall Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Hi, That's me in the clip, I changed from a low hang-point to a high a few months ago, and have been struggling with forward launches ever since. Thanks for all the advice, I'll try it out as soon as the scottish weather improves. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Hi Simon, Changing from low to high is often an issue for people so dont think your alone there. Stand up, let the power / forward movement pull the wing up, and use the A's to 'guide' it and you will be away. (top tip, look at the sky when taking off not the ground SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivefreeman Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Also try holding your hands down at waist height and let the wing come up naturaly. (Crucifix position ) That way you will not be forcing the A's just hold onto them and dont lean down so much then look straight up... i pretty much had the same issue on my high hang point. Good luck .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbertflyer Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Try launching with your 'ears' in. I normally use this method in marginal reverse launch conditions. It helps bring the wing up quicker and inflates from the middle more centrally. the 'ears' pop out before lauch on most modern EN certified wings. Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 A nice clean forward launch wont require and specific type of lay out other than flat on the ground. The tucking the ears thing is from old Paragliding days when wings were heavy and slow. If the wing is lay out flat, and launched correctly, it will come up inflated without the need to wait for the tips to pop out. Pop down to the school on a busy day and watch our guys doing them all day long SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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