matt_k Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 When in full reflex my brake handles are only inches from my cage with the slack Is anyone else's this close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Best do a hang check have you gained any weight? SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 When in full reflex my brake handles are only inches from my cage with the slack Is anyone else's this close? I hoe you mean when they are parked on the keepers and not just letting them go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_k Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Yes Parked! We really need a spell check on here! whos a hoe? How close is everyone else in full reflex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 What is the distance when on slow trim... I cant see how it changes from one to another they only go up and down!!! do a hang check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_k Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 When in full reflex the rear lines are really slack and hang back in the wind alot more than other positions. in neutral the rear lines are tight and i hang perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgy Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Hi Matt The brakes will bow/hang back that is to allow the trailing edge raise to go into reflex. I had my first flight after getting all my kit back. I thought of you while i was flying so looked at my wing while in full reflex.... It bow's but not allot i would say i have about 8" between the line's and the cage. I also think it might be because your small How is your hang point set is it right to the back hole as this will make you closer than most other people. All the best Eat some pie's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyfreefly Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 How about using one of those weight belts that the divers use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_k Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 Oi i aint that small! Its just everyone into paramotoring seems taller and had too many pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_k Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 Im on the second hole from the back on my pap so about right, i think my main concern was the access line from my brake handles was too long so i tied it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Im on the second hole from the back on my pap so about right, i think my main concern was the access line from my brake handles was too long so i tied it off. We really do need grammar check on here. "excess" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_k Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 You must be small aswell Pete, all small people get up earlee, we dont need as much sleap as bigger peeple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 They need their beauty sleep more as well from the ones Ive seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Several things occur. on a low hang (swing arm) machine on fully open trim reflex wing. The lighter load on the rear lines means they billow out and come closer to the cage (as has been said). the pilot moves forward under the wing and the angle of the lines changes bringing the top of the risers closer to the cage. the higher thrust required to stay level makes the engine "pitch down" and brings the top of the cage closer to the riser. The bigger the cage the closer the two get to each other. This phenomenon is the subject of numerous incident reports (some very serious). The problem gets bigger in turbulence as the pitching up of the wing coinciding with the pitching down of the motor brings the two in direct contact, any yawing of the motor to the wing at the same time brings one side even closer; these movements can press the parked brake handles through the netting if the netting will allow and permit brake handle/prop contact. Using speed bar with the legs (weight) forward also pitches the motor down and increased thrust demand at higher speed further pitches it down. My own view FWIW is that higher powered motors are better on mid hang systems rather than low to prevent this amount of "thrust pitching" and motor/wing pitch differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trm8620 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 How close ? closer than this? This is on a revo with big macro cage. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_k Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 Mine are a little closer but not alot, i guess mine are about 5-6 " away at most to the brake handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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