digidydawg Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I'm thinking of upgrading to the Dudek Nucleon but do to a back injury I'm currently forced to use a buggy. I hope to return to foot launch one day but in the meantime is it possible to get maximum benefit out of a reflex wing without using a speed bar? ... would there be another way to activate the speed bar without the use of your feet?? Very much appreciate any input! digidydawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I'm thinking of upgrading to the Dudek Nucleon but do to a back injury I'm currently forced to use a buggy. I hope to return to foot launch one day but in the meantime is it possible to get maximum benefit out of a reflex wing without using a speed bar? ... would there be another way to activate the speed bar without the use of your feet?? Very much appreciate any input!digidydawg I cant remember the last time I used a speed bar, so yes you can with out one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyfreefly Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Am I missing something with this one Why carnt you use a speed bar with a buggy..... You sit down in the buggy and you push the speed bar why is there a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digidydawg Posted June 16, 2011 Author Share Posted June 16, 2011 I've never seen a buggy with a speed bar. The speed bar usually comes with the harness and most buggies have a permanent seat. I'm fairly MacGyver like and could probably cobble something together but would prefer if I could get someone else to test it for me:) I guess what I'm asking is, is it still worth getting a reflex wing if I can't apply the speed bar??? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidcelebrities Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 http://extremeppg.com/2011/04/20/dudek- ... iew-video/ Check out the video in that post. The pilot had a trimmer system setup on the A's instead of speedbar. That could be something you may want to look into. Most pilots don't fly with speedbar all the time and if your wanting a reflex wing for its stability than your still going to get that with just trimmers set to fast. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digidydawg Posted June 16, 2011 Author Share Posted June 16, 2011 Thanks Jeff, that's kinda the answer I was hoping for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyfreefly Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I am taking an interest in this one because since wrecking my leg in a paramotor accident a month ago....I am still very much in the recovery stage and have a very long road ahead another two months before I am allowed to put by foot on the floor... So in my new found position and a detemination to get back flying paramotors Ive been looking at small trikes ...... There are quite a few on youtube based on a trike buggy that you can just attatch your own paramotor in a few seconds retaining your paramotors seat and speed system and away you go...as if you dont fly with a speedbar you are going to miss out on a huge range of your wings performance....also its way way easier to release the speed bar if you need to quickly....than to start trying to fiddle with trimmers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollycoli Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Hi all, and for those who are looking at a Trike/buggy i think im right in saying that to use a trike you have to have the PPL licence in the UK to be legal !!! ( Simon or Pete b will know. Cheers P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyfreefly Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Got One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollycoli Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Great stuff no probs then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanman Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Not as long as he has an endorsement for powered parachutes. Otherwise the license is not valid to fly with a trike buggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Correct, and to clarify. (In the UK) you require, an NPPL with the 'Powered Parachutes' endorsement to fly a trike or quad. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyfreefly Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 I think you need to check your facts before saying eveybody who flys microlight with a licence needs a endorsement to fly a paratrike as it depends on when that licence was issued... if you are flying with the current NPPL you do.... if its the old style a PPL ( M ) pre 2001 you dont........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanman Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Is that the same for a pre-2001 UK issued issued PPL(A)? Edit to add... A bit of research shows UK CAA issued PPL (A) and (D) are indeed exempt from 'differences training'. They also revalidate on the old 5 hours in 13 months rule without flight with instructor requirement unless the holder chooses to transfer to the newer revalidation requirements. Glad you bought this up Gary as 10 years ago I transferred another UK CAA issued license I hold for a JAR equivalent. I decided to fly 3 axis microlights again last year so revalidated the SEP part on that JAR license and did 'microlight differences training' to make that legit. When I changed the address on my license recently they gave me a UK CAA PPL (A) again as well as my JAR license without me asking which was decent of them as that means I too am now in the same position as you. It also means that legally I am not required to complete differences training to convert to flexwing, however common sense applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyfreefly Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Its a bit of a minefield though....who can do what with what. as always its in the small print ( somewhere ) I think the trailer towing laws (on the road) are somewhat just as confusing I would like to fly 3 axis in the near future as well as my flexwing and when I enquired about conversion training was told I legally didnt need it Now there is no way I would jump into a fix wing aircraft without training so I intend to get some as soon as I can hobble my way to the aircraft of course to fly a paratrike i need to get a G reg for my wing......to make it legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I think you need to check your facts before saying eveybody who flys microlight with a licence needs a endorsement to fly a paratrike as it depends on when that licence was issued... if you are flying with the current NPPL you do.... if its the old style a PPL ( M ) pre 2001 you dont........ My apologies... I did of course mean people who currently fly a Paramotor and want to fly a trike and do not currently hold any licence. Fairly obviously (I would assume) it would differ for people who hold a PPL already. My post was aimed at people on a Paramotor forum, not a PPL forum SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 So to clarify again, If you currently fly a Paramotor and hold no form of 'licence' (we are not talking PMC or BHPA 'rating') then you need to do the NPPL training with the Powered Parachute endorsement. The NPPL (with Powered Parachute endorsement) only takes a couple of days to complete so not worth doing it illegally and the theory is simpler than a PPL, so you don't have to become a geek / book worm to fly one! Let's try to keep this nice and clean for people who are interested and not confuse it with people who already have a PPL or any other form of non PPG licence. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollycoli Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Hi Simon, do you know where you can get the NPPL powerd parachute conversion done close to Basingstoke!!!??? as it seems that you have to travel miles. Lots do NPPL for microlights but not the above any idears!!!?? Thanks Pol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Hi Pol, The only UK dedicated powered parachute training is at ''Our Training School is at the North London Parachute Centre at Chatteris near Cambridge c/o AAA Microlights. Stonea, March, Cambridgeshire PE15 0EA'' Website http://aerochuteuk.co.uk/# Cheers, Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pollycoli Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 alan k , you are the man very quick with reply i very much thank you - I will endever to make arrangments with said institution to see if i can arrange for the NPPL. Alan thank you very much you have been a great help to me Kind regards Pol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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