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It seems that lots of people are making 'chase cams' which you 'tow' behind the paramotor in order to film yourself.

It seems that people are not aware that his is A) self incriminating and B) breaking the Law.

Just a heads up.

SW :D

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* Aircraft should not be flown when towing any article

Pulled from another thread, dont have the time to find it in the ANO.

SW :D

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I am sure there will be some kind of rating that you could get to do just that from the CAA.

Tow Launching is not the same as towing a banner either.

SW :D

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I think first you need to define what you mean by ''Chase Cam''??

Is the camera physically mounted to the pilot, motor, wing or rigging? If any of those methods are used, then my interpretation is the camera is not being towed but is part of the aircraft.

If the camera is mounted in a pod with wings and physically towed on a cable behind the motor I think then you are probably falling foul of the law. As well as being dangerous?? :shock:

Rich

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A towed camera in a pod with wings could be classed as a glider (even if unmanned) so is perfectly legal - however there is also exemption to tow "any instrument which is being used for experimental purposes" so a camera is potentially a legal instrument .... I think common sense is the overiding factor here, rather than any incorrect interpretation of the law.

Towing, picking up and raising of persons and articles

65.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this article, an aircraft in flight shall not, by means external to the aircraft, tow any article, other than a glider, or pick up or raise any person, animal or article, unless there is a certificate of airworthiness issued or rendered valid in respect of that aircraft under the law of the country in which the aircraft is registered and that certificate or the flight manual for the aircraft includes an express provision that it may be used for that purpose.

(2) An aircraft shall not launch or pick up tow ropes, banners or similar articles other than at an aerodrome.

(3) An aircraft in flight shall not tow any article, other than a glider, at night or when flight visibility is less than one nautical mile.

(4) The length of the combination of towing aircraft, tow rope, and article in tow, shall not exceed 150 metres.

(5) A helicopter shall not fly at any height over a congested area of a city, town or settlement at any time when any article, person or animal is suspended from the helicopter.

(6) A passenger shall not be carried in a helicopter at any time when an article, person or animal is suspended therefrom, other than a passenger who has duties to perform in connection with the article, person or animal or a passenger who has been picked up or raised by means external to the helicopter or a passenger who it is intended shall be lowered to the surface by such means.

(7) Nothing in this article shall—

(a)prohibit the towing in a reasonable manner by an aircraft in flight of any radio aerial, any instrument which is being used for experimental purposes, or any signal, apparatus or article required or permitted by or under this Order to be towed or displayed by an aircraft in flight;.

(b)prohibit the picking up or raising of any person, animal or article in an emergency or for the purpose of saving life;.

©apply to any aircraft while it is flying in accordance with the B Conditions; or.

(d)be taken to permit the towing or picking up of a glider otherwise than in accordance with article 63.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2005/1970/article/65/made

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And if you look at section 63 as it suggests....

Towing of gliders

63.—(1) An aircraft in flight shall not tow a glider unless the flight manual for the towing aircraft includes an express provision that it may be used for that purpose.

(2) The length of the combination of towing aircraft, tow rope and glider in flight shall not exceed 150 metres.

(3) The commander of an aircraft which is about to tow a glider shall satisfy himself, before the towing aircraft takes off—

(a)that the tow rope is in good condition and is of adequate strength for the purpose, and that the combination of towing aircraft and glider, having regard to its performance in the conditions to be expected on the intended flight and to any obstructions at the place of departure and on the intended route, is capable of safely taking off, reaching and maintaining a safe height at which to separate the combination and that thereafter the towing aircraft can make a safe landing at the place of intended destination;

(b)that signals have been agreed and communication established with persons suitably stationed so as to enable the glider to take off safely; and

©that emergency signals have been agreed between the commander of the towing aircraft and the commander of the glider, to be used, respectively, by the commander of the towing aircraft to indicate that the tow should immediately be released by the glider, and by the commander of the glider to indicate that the tow cannot be released.

(4) The glider shall be attached to the towing aircraft by means of the tow rope before the aircraft takes off.

Not sure if we could get away with calling a camera attached to an RC plane on a spare line as the above LOL

SW :D

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It seems that people are not aware that this is A) self incriminating and B) breaking the Law.

Just a heads up.

Bunch of hypocritical outlaws. No one should be flying tandem without insurance, as you have said before there is no rating and you cant get insured. 500ft rule??? Breaking laws....Especially take note at 1min28

How many other instances have not been caught on camera done by 'professional FULLY insured instructors' that essentially licence yourselves to teach.

Who really wants this sport regulated I wonder and who would most likely profit most from it being regulated??

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As it says, just a heads up :-)

I am not trying to police anything here??

As far as who would profit from regulation... I do hope you are not insinuating that would be me? I do wish people would understand that I do this as a lifestyle business. If you think It's for profit you have clearly never met me or know me at all.

The chances are that IF this sport became regulated I would move on to something else. this post has nothing to do with profit or even regulation for that matter.

Regarding Tandem and insurance, there is no law in the UK that requires insurance for tandem flights for either the passenger or the pilot. Although both are pilots and do both have insurance.

Why not take a chill pill, the post was put up this morning as I was asked the question on the phone... Don't look to deeply into a simple thread to promote a bit of chat on the forum on a windy day and try to enjoy joining in instead. :-)

SW :D

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Also....

Here is a perspective :-)

SW :D

That is like sooooo irresponsible of you to post that video!

You are inciting people to get drunk and jump off of bridges flouting the law.

.........joking! Now looking in ebay for a parachute rig!!! :lol:

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I'd dispute that a suspended camera could be classed as a 'towed' article :?

I would agree.

Having looked closely at the wording of the ANO from a legal perspective there is nothing to prohibit the likes of a micro DV camera on a line with foam stabilisers, polystyrene wings etc. In practical terms this is little different from a trailing rotating vane airspeed indicator (a common accessory for may alti-vario's) or a mirror on retractable lanyard, or even a foot stirrup (all accessory objects tethered to the paramotor unit).

Again it comes down to common sense and the potential harm or danger it could pose to others. I'm sure amendments would swiftly be imposed on the regulations if people started towing broadcast quality film units 50m behind on purpose built glider platforms .... :roll:

In practical terms the best "chase cam" footage is always obtained by someone filming from another paramotor. 8)

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