davorh Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Hello, Could someone make comparison between these two wings? Particularly I would like to know following: which wing requires less power for level flight in non accelerated mode (neutral or slow trim position) which wing has a higher maximum speed (without use of a speed bar) Davor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyfreefly Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Check out the discusion on the Ozone roadster.....when it was newish.... viewtopic.php?f=3&t=927&hilit=+ozone+roadster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I can't comment on the roadster as i haven't flown it, but i do fly a Gin Airflex 28 and absolutely love it. I have been thermal flying in the Alps with it as will as a little bit of paragliding there and it has behaved impeccably. The handling is great too. As for the efficiency, it's very good, it glides extremely well. The only comparison i can give you is with a Revolution 26 both using the same HE R120 both on fast trims for around 70% of the time. 5L per hour on the Revo and around 3L per hour on the Airflex. Finally, the Airflex is in the next generation of reflex wings from the Roadster, so you'd expect it to be better (surely?). I'm currently flying it with a very rich running Miniplane and it uses 3L per hour (mixed trim), with some tuning i expect to get that down to below 2.5L. Stuart. 78Kgs Hello,Could someone make comparison between these two wings? Particularly I would like to know following: which wing requires less power for level flight in non accelerated mode (neutral or slow trim position) which wing has a higher maximum speed (without use of a speed bar) Davor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidcelebrities Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 What is the speed like trims out on the gin airflex? I've got a demo coming to me sometime in the next month. Anxious to fly it. There isn't much info on this wing. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Gin says it's pretty fast and it certainly seems quick, the only comparison i have is with a Synth which seemed to be about 1mph faster than me trim out (no speed bar), but i have no idea of pilots weight or wing size (I'm still inside the certified weight range and reasonably light on mine). It doesn't feel any slower than the Revo 26 i had either. It flies very slow too. I'd be interested to hear what you think of your demo when you get it. Stuart. What is the speed like trims out on the gin airflex? I've got a demo coming to me sometime in the next month. Anxious to fly it. There isn't much info on this wing. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidcelebrities Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Heres the review I made on this glider on the ppgwings yahoo group - Finally got a chance to test out the Airflex 26 today. Winds were 5-10 and direction variable, made for a more interesting time launching. The glider came up no problem though, noticed it hung back a little bit but wasn't a big deal. The biggest problem I had was my camera getting caught on the a's when I turned to launch, need to fix the helicopter helmet/cam setup I just got so its a lower profile. I had the glider in take off position through launch and once up to 250 feet I brought the trims out to neutral. I like the way the wing behaves on neutral, it feels pretty sporty. The roll rate was good on this wing in neutral setting and noticed it didn't seem to have the engine revving much at all. Brake pressure felt pretty light in the neutral setting but gave me great feedback all the way through the pull. I had this glider trims wide open in the fast setting and really didnt notice it requiring much more power. I was pretty impressed with that. I had a hard time getting a good speed reading from my gps since it was gusting aloft constantly. What is this wing supposed to cruise at with trims set to full fast? Since i'm only 155 pounds, I could have probably flown the 24 and been even more impressed with its performance. This being the first reflex wing i've had the chance to fly, It took a bit to get used to the long trimmer range as well as the wing tip steering on full fast trim. I liked it though, it turned very well with the tip steering. Kind of strange feeling though flying through bumps and letting the wing do the work, not quite sure how I feel about that yet. I do see it being a great thing when your on a long xc flight. If I had one of my buddies powered parachutes up in the air I would have been able to do a better speed comparison, they do about 32 mph. I want to say that I was averaging about 26kts based on my gps readings with the trimmers set to full fast but I can't give you guys a dead accurate number. 26kts is just shy of 30mph. Just for kicks I reached up and pulled on one of the A's to see how different it was than a standard glider, needless to say, it didnt budge, Cool! When it was time to land I had a sweet slider landing (on my feet) with trimmers set to neutral, it was great! Love the flare authority on this glider. I wish I was able to get more flight time on this wing but the weather here has been terrible since Chris sent me the glider almost a month ago. The biggest dislike I have on this glider is the brake keepers, not a fan of the gin design, I much prefer the magnet woven into the fabric. Besides that small annoyance, I really liked this glider. Thanks again Chris / Superfly for letting me demo the Gin Airflex! Let me know if you guys have any questions about it that I failed to cover in my review. Heres the video - [youtubevideo] [/youtubevideo]Make sure you watch in 720p. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon101 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 the roadster is fantastic apart from needing very deep brake pulls to turn at any decent rate. super stable nimble and quickish with trimmers out. comes up very smoothly but you have to keep the A's pulling all the way up for a good launch most times. a typical very stable ozone wing. cant wait for their new speedster if it ever comes out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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