Richard1910 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Does anyone fly the 'unbreakable' Flat Top Paramotor and have you managed to break it yet? Have you managed to break the prop? Have you had a hard landing? We're looking for a Paramotor that will take some fairly hefty knocks without having to replace props all of the time for Schooling use. I have seen the Flat Top test crashed several times and the prop survived every time where other Paramotors and Props would have been a little worse for wear! Anyone? Richard X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer_Dave Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Hi Richard Had mine 2 years and 120 hours clocked. Be hard to break a prop I reckon. Only problem I had was a couple of times an exhaust stud sheared where the silencer bracket meets the redrive boss. Just have to remember to change them every so often. Or buy the new model which has a rubber mounted silencer and a quick release harness. I'm likely to get the new one soon. You couldn't choose a better unit for tuition. The skids keep students arses off the ground and make it very robust. Also offers unparalelled protection from prop / body contact . The 120 cc model is very light at 22 kilos but might be a bit weak on power for the 15 stone guys. The 200 Simmo is the best but weighs 29 kilos and would be a bit pokey for the lighter first timers unless you restrict the power a bit. The 160 might suit best, as far as the power level goes, but I heard it wasn't as good as the 200 . Hope this helps. Which wing you thinking of for training ? PM if you dont want to bore folk Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard1910 Posted July 18, 2010 Author Share Posted July 18, 2010 Thanks for that Dave! Do you know anyone that has a second hand unit for sale? Richard X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_k Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Dave, the flat top 120 22kgs is that with harness? what is the thrust on this machine and cage size? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukppg Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Dave, the flattop 120 22kgs is that with harness? what is the thrust on this machine and cage size?Cheers Hi Matt, Nigel here from UKPPG, the UK and Ireland Flattop sole importers. In answer to your question, the Flat Top 120 has an all up weight of just under 22kg ready to fly (Ex Fuel). The new 2010 model is fitted with the new light weight, quick release harness in kevlar, single 9ltr tank (Upgradable to 18ltrs if required) and you can have the option of standard Bars or the New Weight Shift Comfort Bar system which allows sideways weight shift as opposed to vertical weight shift and very effective it is as well. The thrust on the 120 sits currently at 59kg from our 3.3:1 reduction unit on a 2 blade carbon prop. As with the Flattop 200 we have never replaced a single Propellor, on any Flattop in the UK to date and we now have 13 machines flying in the UK. In fairness we have replaced one Flattop bottom quarter cage section which was slightly damaged from a heavy student landing, however the guy was nearly 20 stone and the prop yet again stayed in one piece. The cage in fact didn't really need changing as it wasn't a right off, but it did have a slight bend in the front outer ring, so we changed it over as we train on Flattops at the UKPPG training school. So lets set the record straight. No Flattops are not totally indestructable but Yes you do need to do something very, very serious to damage one and even then, you will probably still have your prop in one piece. If you have any other questions please post them or give me a call on 01354 658778 and I will be pleased to answer them for you. Best Regards Nigel UKPPG [youtubevideo] [/youtubevideo] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeiVaffanculo Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 DO NOT SEND DELL ANY MORE MONEY IN 2024 FOR A PARAMOTOR! He will scam you and take your money as he is not building anything anymore. He currently owes me about 9K I paid him in Jul 2023 unfortunately and owes others about the same. He is currently trying to flee the USA to be with his bargirl and shower her with gifts as he wets his willy. Jun 6, 2024, 5:01 PM Dell Yes I agree it's unacceptable and totally messed up. Sometimes crap happens though. Just a long list of one crazy issue after another. Certainly not your fault. I would be lovely if I could give refunds on the few Flat Tops not delivered but the money has already been spent to produce so the only possibility is to complete it. Enter Jun 7, 2024, 2:04 AM You sent If you want to complete it and sell it to somebody else, that will be fine. However, the deadline I imposed of March 1st, since you cant bring yourself to manage this properly and instead go on some escapade while I am left waiting and waiting, is firm. The ship has sailed on this sale and I refuse to accept delivery. So if it is sent, I will simply refuse the package. What I need now is the complete refund of the money I paid you regardless of the progress or lack there of to this paramotor. You are simply holding back the wheels of progress with endless excuses and delay tactics. The time has come to simply toddle down to Chase bank and have them wire my money back to my account post haste, Dell. It does not have to be this difficult. Enter Jun 7, 2024, 8:41 AM Dell There is no possible way of a refund at this point. Once completed I could sell the new unit though and cash you out once there is cash to cash out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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