sam Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any top tips on where to look for a good second hand paramotor wing. I am 74Kg with a RAD Paramotor (25 Kg inc fuel). I am assuming that I require a small/medium wing. I only have a budget of about £500 at the moment which is quite limiting I know but I need to save the rest for training. Many thanks Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanman Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 At 74kg with a RAD I would advise you to stick with a refular PG wing rather than a reflex paramotor wing as you do not really have enough thrust to safely fly level at faster trim settings. Reflex wings are more power hungry than PG wings and excess thrust is something a RAD does not possess. Your sizing guess is also a little out. Get at least a medium if not a large PG wing. Reducing your wing loading will help your low power output. You will be slow compared to everyone else though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paramotormike Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Be very careful buying a second hand wing, after all, your life could depend on it. Look on this (Paramotorclub) web sites classsifieds ads. And this web site also. http://www.paramotorsuk.co.uk/wings.asp That should get you going. Wings can be checked by two companies. http://www.theloftworkshop.co.uk and http://www.aerofix.com That will get you started. Cheers Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Forgive my ignorance as I am new to this but isn't a wing more stable (safe) with a higher loading on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanman Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Yes the higher wing loading will give you more rigidity in your wing but you will need more thrust which is not something you have in abundance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_d. Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 See if you can find a medium Apco Thrust. The first ones produced should be selling for around about that figure. Its what I use with my Rad MXL , so easy to launch it can be done no-handed, on the other hand the wing I had before that was a large Apco Fiesta which was hopeless, not so much the wing but the size meant that wing just didnt want to know on forward launches, always falling to one side. The old Swing Arcus,s used to be easy for ppg also. I tried my mates small Apco Tetra, I flew it but I wouldnt recommend it to a beginer weighing what I do (81kg). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer_Dave Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Hi Sam I would also tend to be of the opinion that a non reflex might be best to learn with, as you have limited power. I wouldn't neccessarily think a large size would be good though. I saw a guy learn to fly a 120 Rad on a large hill flying wing. He weighed 80 kilos or less and took the wing back to the dealer after one scarey flight. He had no speed and it wallowed around sluggishly. Fell back behind him when he powered up to climb. The wing was a Z one. They weren't bad wings according to many. I'm reluctant to advise but for me personally, would keep the wing loading up and try to find an efficient wing with a glide ratio of above 8 to 1. Try to find a dhv 1 that will achieve this, but the low end dhv 1-2's fly better when you've a few flights logged. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Hi all,I was wondering if anyone had any top tips on where to look for a good second hand paramotor wing. I am 74Kg with a RAD Paramotor (25 Kg inc fuel). I am assuming that I require a small/medium wing. I only have a budget of about £500 at the moment which is quite limiting I know but I need to save the rest for training. Many thanks Sam ads_item.php?id=85 http://www.para2000.org/wings/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
learner_driver Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Forgive my ignorance as I am new to this but isn't a wing more stable (safe) with a higher loading on it? Hi Sam just as a point of note the biggest safety feature is your ability to understand and choose the correct weather to fly in. Spring is the time of year where the most accidents happen, this will all be covered in your training best of luck with your choice. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 Thanks for all the good advice. If any of you see a wing that you think would be suitable please let me know. In the mean time I will keep looking and keep saving. many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alec Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Why are there likely to be more accidents in Spring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Why are there likely to be more accidents in Spring? Out of practise due to not flying in the winter Judgement of conditions ect due to the above and spring thermals are usually strong and punch little devils even on nice cold calm days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrant Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Which RAD paramotor do you have? They are not as bad as some think. I am 90 Kgs naked and I have flown my mates RAD Arrow on a medium Swing Arcus (too small really), taking off with the trimmers out. I still got off OK and flew a couple of curcuits, even had a bit of thermaling. The biggest downside of RADs is the noise, but this can be lessened. I do agree though, that you would be better off with a free flying wing. Probably a medium, if it is too big for you it can be difficult to ground handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrant Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 My mate has a Independence merlin for sale, a bit more than your budget but it is like new! viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4438 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted February 27, 2010 Author Share Posted February 27, 2010 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Arcus-Swing-M-Par ... 335a8e90d9 Just seen this on Ebay.....opinions would be welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanman Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I (like many people) have motored on an Arcus and they make a very good wing to start out with. Phone the seller and ask him about getting it checked out by one of the inspection companies because if it gets a clean bill of health it looks very suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outkast Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I (like many people) have motored on an Arcus and they make a very good wing to start out with. Phone the seller and ask him about getting it checked out by one of the inspection companies because if it gets a clean bill of health it looks very suitable. I have the sting powerplay 160 wich is a development of the swing arcus, they are a great begginers wing, very stable and docile, very easy to launch, I flew all through last summer in some quite dramatic thermals and it never strayed too far from directly above my head, you will biuld your confidence well on one of these wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted February 28, 2010 Author Share Posted February 28, 2010 Just read an article about the Swing Arcus being prone to parachutal stalls. Has anyone had any experience of this? Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Just read an article about the Swing Arcus being prone to parachutal stalls. Has anyone had any experience of this?Sam No but if it happens just push the As gently and it will start Flying as normal again You would only get in to a parachutal stall if You applied the brakes slowly and progressively You flew in to a gust that slowly stopped your forward motion and then the gust dropped off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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