tj Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Once I'm flying I'll volunteer as the novice tester! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spigot Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I`ll give em a try... soon as I`ve got a motor that can give more thrust than my wing produces drag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesplat Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Hi All a novice tester is a bang on idea for the wings and kit put forward by the industry as " sutiable for a beginer ". Some one in their first year of flying and stands down at the end of that year for the next novice. I think that would give a truer result than say a five year pilot testing it. As the more experianced pilot tends to almost auto correct as he launches , ground handles ect without really thinking about or noticing that he's doing so. I would think the person who does this would get a huge amount of experiance from it. Just a thought... Cheers Col..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paramotormike Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 http://www.footflyer.com/Equipment/Wing ... leon27.htm Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 But not the Fusion or Nuc of courss for the newbie SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom-vince Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 The 29 m2 version of Dudek's Nucleon passed EN C certification, Some of the suspension line lengths were shortened by 1cm for the certification namely lines AI, AII, AIII, BIII, and STI. Dudek say that this change only minimally affects the behaviour of the wing in flight, but owners of previously manufactured Nucleons can either wait until the next inspection, or send their paragliders to the factory now for line replacement (for 160 zl + shipments costs). They will then have a certification sticker applied. Owners choosing to shorten these lines themselves should note that their wings will still not be certified. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) Mr Carnet,David Muzellec and (and others) "would most probably win no matter which reflex wing they were on as they are excellent pilots "from pete b lukes replie .... If you had a good pilot on a good paramotor machine and with a crap wing your saying mr carnet. david muzellec and others would win anyway....i dont think so. top pilots need good equipment and wings.e,g mr carnet wont fly a wing he feels is not going to win. it does take two. not the one.why should excellent pilots use crap wings?its in black and white the results from dudek. these excellent pilots are showing us all what can be done in flight useing good wings.and that same idea rubs off on us all. weather they are comp pilots or not. the very same comp pilots test the wings and improve them.then they have a competition and flying for england is mr carnet.and just by looking on the internet i can see the results in black and white.so mr carnet can win anything no matter the equipment he uses.or lewis hamilton the racing driver no matter how hes engine is running this year will win.like i said depending on equipment not just pilot or driver.ill look at results for lewis and i can see in black and white things arnt running smooth.lewis would most proably win no matter which f1 car he uses.... is there any info on the fusion winning anything?this year Edited August 7, 2009 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) Mr Carnet,David Muzellec and (and others) "would most probably win no matter which reflex wing they were on as they are excellent pilots "from pete b lukes replie .... If you had a good pilot on a good paramotor machine and with a crap wing your saying mr carnet. david muzellec and others would win anyway....i dont think so. top pilots need good equipment and wings.e,g mr carnet wont fly a wing he feels is not going to win. it does take two. not the one.why should excellent pilots use crap wings?its in black and white the results from dudek. these excellent pilots are showing us all what can be done in flight useing good wings.and that same idea rubs off on us all. weather they are comp pilots or not. the very same comp pilots test the wings and improve them.then they have a competition and flying for england is mr carnet.and just by looking on the internet i can see the results in black and white.is there any info on the fusion winning anything?this year I did not say anything about crap wings? So you are obviosly in the dudek camp and nothing else matches it, well we all have our prefrences. Pete b Edited August 7, 2009 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendmeroundthehedge Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 It really does not matter what brand of wing you fly. With the modern technology of today's wings, they are as good as each other. Whatever kit you have got is the right kit for you. Just enjoy! Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Hurrraaa to that.! SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjenni12 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 [is any info on the fusion winning anything?this year Both Deano and Pascal are flying Fusions in the Worlds and doing really well. Infact Deano was leading overall after the first 2 tasks. Team GBR currently Silver but sooo close to Gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom-vince Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 Wasn't Pascal 2nd in the UK Nats on a borrowed machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjenni12 Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Yes Pascal was second (results are here from Nats:- http://www.ppgcomps.co.uk/results/2009/ ... ipment.pdf) He was using a new Bailey 200 instead of his usual PAP Ros. Looks like team GB have missed the gold place by 94 points! Which is mad considering the totals are in the 23000's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
learner_driver Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Pete I have just seen your your avtar, that is fantasmadasical I hope your nearly back to normal Kind Regards Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Pete I have just seen your your avtar, that is fantasmadasical I hope your nearly back to normal Kind Regards Simon Just got the limp to get rid off then I will be the same as I was before Pete b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer_Dave Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 What was you like b4 then luvver ? "normal" ? Hope not ! Dont mix wiv normal people. They wont have me ! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 What was you like b4 then luvver ? "normal" ? Hope not ! Dont mix wiv normal people. They wont have me ! Dave Thats why I said (as before) as I was not normal before, during and I hope not after Normal people are ok but they dont fly Pete b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom-vince Posted September 9, 2009 Author Share Posted September 9, 2009 I have just looked on http://www.paramotorsuk.co.uk/wings.asp at the second hand lists and there are 4 Nucleons for sale, one just says "OFFERS" ? it doesn't sound good. no fusions for sale. lol. I was on there to get a price idea for my reaction which I have just put on ebay for 1k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outkast Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Pete I have just seen your your avtar, that is fantasmadasical I hope your nearly back to normal Kind Regards Simon Just got the limp wrist to get rid off then I will be the same as I was before Pete b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 You can see your self on the weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I can see myself now. Glad I'm not normal as I am a flyer. Always wondered, good now it's been cleared up Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrobey Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Hi Guys, I have been reading all the posts with interest re the Nucleon and Fusion and thought I would post my feelings of a recent flight on a Nucleon. I would say that I am a cautious pilot, been fying since 1998 with only about 250 hours in that time. I weight 75kgs fly a PAP and Revo 26 combo. I am looking to change wings to a Fusion or Nucleon but would say that the extra cost of a Fusion will hurt my pocket more so am swaying more to the Nucleon. This weekend I flew my Revo then a 31 Nuc then a 31 synth. I was a little nervous to start on the Nuc as I had heared that landings are fast and the landing was on my mind most of the flight. The wing felt good and the first thing I noticed was the low revs of my engine. As soon as I powered off the wing did not fall like a brick it just seemed to glide. I had the sensation of being light on a large wing, it was just like paragliding again. I shut down the revs and went looking for lift and it was easy to find. I would like to get this wing out on a light thermic day as I feel it would be easy to turn off the engine and just go fly. It felt safe and stable but I would like to know how it compares to the DHV ratings on slow trim. I had a good flight and can't stop thinking about future possibilities. I flew for 75 mins and used a tad over 3 litres of fuel. The brake lines felt long and I could do with longer arms for the flare at touchdown. Next I flew the Synth. Easy take off an instantly felt at ease. It felt more like my Revo. I did notice much higher engine revs and that the glide was no way near as good as the Nuc. I flew much lower as my engine noise was higher and it was annoying me. I flew again for 75min and used almost 5 litres of fuel. That would be enough to stop me from buying one but what a superb wing for a beginer it is. Just my thoughts. Happy motoring Nick Robey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 How did the landings compare with the Revo (which I also fly) Nick? Cheers Steve This weekend I flew my Revo then a 31 Nuc then a 31 synth. I was a little nervous to start on the Nuc as I had heared that landings are fast. Happy motoring Nick Robey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irm750 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Just noticed that sizes 25, 27, 29 and 31 of the Nucleon have recently been awarded EN C. The smallest and largest (23 & 34) are awaiting certification. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrobey Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Hi Steve, I only landed once so can't give an honest answer to how they compare. I did notice though that as I lined up for landing the first time when I let off the throttle I felt that I was going to glide straight over the landing site. I powered up and went around again. When I did touch down I felt that the brake lines were way too long and I caught my throttle on the cage netting for a moment. The speed of the landing felt no different to the Revolution but the Revo comes in steeper. Hope that helps Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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