frazer1981 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 What do people think of this machine? any good or bad points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 The one thing that I really like about the Adventure (and therefore also Nirvana) machines, is that the cage has no structural importance. If you damage the cage, it is very unlikely that damage will be transmitted to the fibreglass monocoque unit. Damage it, and you can patch it up pretty much anyway you like, strength wont affect flight safety too much. Oh, the cage is pretty flimsy, and WILL get bent in hard landings. The aesthetics are a very personal thing, I quite like the sort of organic look to it. Does the F4 use the Solo engine? If so, I've posted my thoughts on it in another of the 'best' paramotor threads that is running at the moment. My F3 has pulled my (pre diet) weight of about 118kg into the air, under an XL Swing Arcus, but not a sparkling rate of climb at that weight. As I lose weight, it's getting better and better. Had recent problems with a stator failure, leaving me with no sparks, but Adventure tech support were very good. Other than that, good reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 if you land hard be prepaired for broken props and bent cages, my pal had one for a couple of weeks untill he had a hard landing and it is in a skip apart from the engine which needed rebuilding it bent the crank and broke the mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_andrews Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Bent the crank?? Is your mate ok!? Seems one would have to pile in awful hard to bend a crank? Sounds messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Bent the crank?? Is your mate ok!?Seems one would have to pile in awful hard to bend a crank? Sounds messy. Not if the prop hit end on one of the blades. Pete b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Bent the crank?? Is your mate ok!?Seems one would have to pile in awful hard to bend a crank? Sounds messy. Not if the prop hit end on one of the blades. Pete b Still, to bend the crank, it is having to bend the redrive shaft, and then transmit the load through the drive belt to bend the crank as well. If you were able to do that, I doubt there are many cages/frames that would have survived the impact. I wonder if the engine was running at impact, as that tends to have much more of a damaging effect. So far, I've always arrived 'dead stick', and cage damage has been minimal. Big things go wrong at launch when I hit the ground with power still on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 yes it damaged the cage he put engine in anothr frame and turned out the crank was bent , its wasnt the lightest of hits and the engine was still running on impact but soon stopped , he came away un hurt. he has had some hard landings on another machine bent the cage very slightly and bust props. he still flies the machine, he has got two machines and he wont fly the other machine because of the experience he had with the adventure. so he sticks with his little solid machine to fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Hey, if he still has the adventure monocoque/fibreglass bit, and it's still intact, ask him if he wants to flog it as I fancy a project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 yes it damaged the cage he put engine in anothr frame and turned out the crank was bent , its wasnt the lightest of hits and the engine was still running on impact but soon stopped , he came away un hurt. he has had some hard landings on another machine bent the cage very slightly and bust props. he still flies the machine, he has got two machines and he wont fly the other machine because of the experience he had with the adventure. so he sticks with his little solid machine to fly Who did he train with? What is he doing wrong when landing? Has anyone tried to help him land better? Where does he live? We all have bad landings but this is starting to work out very expensive, he would be better off getting some training or just some good advise on what not to do. If I can help at all pm me. Pete b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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