huffhuff Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Hi guys, Second hand swing arcus going for sale, what should I pay? Cannot confirm hours or manufacture date but says still crispy. Small pin prick repairs. Bear in mind i'll have to send to the loft and get some sting/powerplay risers... Quick response would be great...cheers! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted September 11, 2008 Author Share Posted September 11, 2008 The one time you need francis and he's not here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Following on from another thread where the buyer stated 'first to see will buy', another common term that appears in every wing sale is 'still crispy'. What an incredibly useless term that is after all at the end of the day my pants are 'still crispy' but that doesn't mean I'd want to fly under them! A good basic rule of thumb for second hand wings is get it checked by Aerofix, The Loft or an equivalent. If the seller won't put it through an inspection prior to you paying him (and a contribution towards said inspection) then walk away. The amount of flying hours the wing has done is also only part of the story. How and where it is stored can be just as important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 I paid £600 on fleabay for an Arcus (3 I think) in XL with powerplay risers. It was a 2003 model and when I sent it to 'The Loft', it got 'good' on just about every category. I must say that I think I landed lucky regarding condition, plus with being XL perhaps demand was a bit lower which may have held the price down. Having watched many adverts since, I should think that a serviced one with a good report might cost you between £600 and £800 with maybe the odd one going higher or lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outkast Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 I paid £600 on fleabay for an Arcus (3 I think) in XL with powerplay risers. It was a 2003 model and when I sent it to 'The Loft', it got 'good' on just about every category.I must say that I think I landed lucky regarding condition, plus with being XL perhaps demand was a bit lower which may have held the price down. Having watched many adverts since, I should think that a serviced one with a good report might cost you between £600 and £800 with maybe the odd one going higher or lower. I just picked up a sting powerplay 160, only 2 hours use with only 25 mins of that actually flying, came with rucksack, stuffsack, manuals and speedbar for just £1000, so sometimes there are some good deals to be had if you duck and dive a little you can find them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 Thanks guys, As always, a wealth of information and knowledge. Maybe i'll ask him to get it checked by the loft then make an offer... Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dont know where you are but dont forget Green Dragons near Gatwick also do paragl;ider inspections . Dont forget also that a gliderwith a Loft says Its Good certidficate is worth nore than one that doesnt. Make an offer (around 500 for an arcus) conditional that he gets it Lofted, which you will pay for if it comes back "Good", otherwise its at his cost? There are lots of Arcusses out there so its a buyers market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 Excellent, thank you Francis. I wasn't aware of Green Dragons so will look into that too. Thanks, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craggrat Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Hi Whats the cost of having a second hand wing tested, Do you get some sort of MOT certificate with it to say its safe. cheers Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Check out the loft... The paraglider service consists of a full inspection of the glider. This includes ribs, cross ribs, top surface, bottom surface, seams, tabs, lines, risers and harness. A selection of lines are measured to check against the manufacturers spec. A porosity test and line strength test are also done if necessary. We can also test the strength of the cloth but this is only needed if the glider is old, or has had a lot of use or is very faded. With the service you receive a full written report stating any problems found, any previous repairs, work done and report of the gliders overall condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outkast Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Hi Whats the cost of having a second hand wing tested, Do you get some sort of MOT certificate with it to say its safe. cheers Kevin http://www.aerofix.com/ http://www.theloftworkshop.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted September 21, 2008 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 Craggrat, I rang around and got some prices, here they are for both aerofix and the loft; Aerofix; £45+vat and postage (£20 there and back) The Loft; £65+vat and postage (again, £20 there and back) Didn't get lead times on aerofix but did on the loft and they said 7-10 days. Although, I have heard these could be a tad 'optomistic' Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craggrat Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Thanks Ben At those price's its worth getting a second hand wing checked out, for peace of mind. cheers kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcs Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Didn't get lead times on aerofix but did on the loft and they said 7-10 days. Although, I have heard these could be a tad 'optomistic' Ben Yes that is optimistic, my mate down here sent his wing for a 7-10 day repair nearly 4 weeks ago, he not a happy bunny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I specifically use Aerofix in preference to the Loft for that very reason. I have sent wings and reserves to Aerofix in the Monday post and had it back on Friday ready for the weekend. In my experience with the Loft your lucky to get it back in the same month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I have to say, I have not used Airfix, but I have used the loft, and a few of the club members have used them and had an almost instant repair and return. I dont even know the peoples names at the loft so have no link or friendship to consider in my post. I am not dissing Airfix, people seem to talk highly of them as well. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_P Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I have had rapid turn around both times my wing has been to the loft. About eight days each for an inspection and a two panel repair. Evidently a bit variable then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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