Dragonphotographic Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Over recent weeks I have seen the same Parajet Whisper listed on Ebay several times. Each time with a different seller ID always brand new and registered just before the start of the auction. Another suspect practice with this is anonymous bidding. In high value items such as cameras for instance, a common scam is sellers advertise a non-existant item, usually at a bargain price, then protect themselves by making the bidding anonymous. That way, anyone who hase been previously conned cannot contact any other bidder to warn them. Then, the seller usually contacts each bidder in turn and offers to end the auction early in return for an immediate cash payment 'Off Ebay' to 'save Ebay Fees' I'm not saying this is definately a rogue seller, it may be genuine. BUT, why 4 successive owners of this motor would immediately relist it under an assumed ID and using exactly the same photo again does tend to make one suspicious of either the motor and/or the seller. Just thought I'd offer a heads up for those who maybe don't use Ebay often and may be tempted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 A link? SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer_Dave Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 Yes Mark i think it's a bogey. I've seen that photo for 18 months now, and report it everytime it comes up. Did it lastnight and wrote to the seller asking their wherabouts because I was seriously interested in both of their listings and wanted to arrange collection. Guess what. No reply. BTW Bill is here Thursday. Ring if coming up so I know just before Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 A link?SW The ebay search engine is your friend - however I'll save you the hassle - LINK HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helimed01 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Definately a scam, this photo was arround 3 years ago. New membership, no feedback How can we set this person up?? Just for fun Any ideas. Whitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I recon thats a great idea! Thinking cap on..... SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Perhaps a paramotorclub highest bid competition, I reckon a couple of million quid would win the auction and save an unsuspecting punter from being scammed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rszemeti Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I'm up for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 create two new ebay users. get them both to put in a couple of grand as highst bid then let the auto bidding take over. The scammer is hardly going to report it but will be faced with a ebay sellers bill that he/she will have to duck. Do this every time the motor appears in the auction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonphotographic Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 That's what we did with a camera scammer once. By the time his camera had reached £500K he had to withdraw it because the ebay final value fee was massive! I'm currently the high bidder btw, you'll have to stump up at least £6K to beat me Updated 1906: Dave, Looks like it worked, I've just had a message from Ebay saying they have pulled the auction. Well done mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Yay it went over 5K then "This listing (280232668070) has been removed or is no longer available" I did get the following email from "Dean" but I don't think I'll be sending 1400 GBP anytime soon Hello, I think that we can arrange the deal now for GBP 1400 (free delivery) and we will make this transaction through eBay. If you agree to start the transaction, you must send me your full name and address for the eBay invoice. You will have 14 days return policy, if you are not satisfied with the item received eBay will give you all the money back. Thank you, Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonphotographic Posted June 4, 2008 Author Share Posted June 4, 2008 Ha ha! 14 day return and Ebay will give you all the money back? Of the dozen or so people who have tried to use 'Ebay protection' that's exactly what it is, to protect Ebay. No-one I have heard of has ever recovered more than 10p in the £ even when the deals have been outright scams. I other words, when Ebay say 'Click here to find out how you're protected' don't bother, their terms and conditions mean it's not worth the effort It will be interesting to see how long this joker waits before listing again huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donegalwing Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Just for the record guys , thats not me Regards Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Get him!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It must be you, you have the same name! SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I have hooked him, time for some fun... Mailed him yesterday... Hi Dean, I can't see the auction anymore, is it still for sale as £1400 is a good price and I'm still interested. I'm about to start training soon so need the kit asap, what are your details for the payment. thanks Reply this morning Hello, How do you want pay? If you are ready to start the transaction just confirm your full name and address for the eBay invoice. Regards, Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irm750 Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 See if you can get HIS name and address............ Then share it with us and we can all start sending pizzas, skips, jehovahs witnesses etc, etc to his house!!!!! Juvenile but still worth a chuckle and he will wonder where it's all coming from!!! Best regards, Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcs Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 and sign his email address up to plenty of porn sites, ahem...not that I could tell you how to find any, ask Pete B, he knows most things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonphotographic Posted June 5, 2008 Author Share Posted June 5, 2008 Looks like our boy's found himself a new photo. Same lack of location though, and NO-ONE is gonna send a paramotor to USA or Canada for free huh? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rad-MXL-paramotor ... dZViewItem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Hello, Please give me an answer ... Send me your full name and address for the eBay invoice. Regards, Sharon Very strange that he's forgotten his own name !! Hi Dean, sorry for the delay, I can usually only get onto email once a day. My address is 6 Oxford Street Lambourn RG17 8XP I can send cash if that's easier as I get paid cash tomorrow, or however you like. I'm also after a helmet if you have one (will pay up to £50 extra). How long will delivery take as I'm desperate to start training. thanks For your reference his email is galopalet@aol.com but don't abuse it just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_b Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 and sign his email address up to plenty of porn sites, ahem...not that I could tell you how to find any, ask Pete B, he knows most things What do you prefer Big Small Long Tall Short Fat Thin Straight Gay Female Male TS TV Black Asian Oriental Indian Dom Sub Old Young Mature Granny Just call me Honey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonphotographic Posted June 5, 2008 Author Share Posted June 5, 2008 For your reference his email is galopalet@aol.com but don't abuse it just yet. You thinking of setting up a sting Dan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcs Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 and sign his email address up to plenty of porn sites, ahem...not that I could tell you how to find any, ask Pete B, he knows most things What do you prefer Big Small Long Tall Short Fat Thin Straight Gay Female Male TS TV Black Asian Oriental Indian Dom Sub Old Young Mature Granny Just call me Honey All of the above, and hairy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 I recon a simple spam filter would solve that one. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Had this email: Hello, No problem about the delay. I sent all the details to eBay and they will send you an invoice with instructions to complete this transaction. The invoice is for £1450 , the price include the helmet. The delivery and insurance will be free. Please let me know if you received the invoice from eBay. Regards, Dean Then had a very official looking "ebay purchase program" money request, and considering there is no such thing in ebay you can conclude it's 100% scam. Wants payment by Western Union to: Name: Richard Watson Street: 24 Rosemont Road City: Liverpool Zip code: L17 6BZ2 Any scousers on here want to deliver a personal message ? or will this be a dumb address ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcs Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Probably a dumb address but the guy would have to provide some proof of it to collect the money, or does he just have to provide the code. Unless sending money to a friend you have to be stark raving mad to do any business transaction through Western Union. Dan, can you provide a scan of the ebay invoice, I've heard about these but never actually seen one. Probably worth reporting this to the police and ebay too! What a rotten git eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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