AndyB Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I have just read the latest update from the DFT. They have said "recreational flying" is not a "sport" and "the previously issued guidance precluding recreational flying continues to apply". They then say "we will provide another update as soon as the guidance is updated". So there you have it. Flying is not a sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackburn Mark Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, AndyB said: I have just read the latest update from the DFT. They have said "recreational flying" is not a "sport" and "the previously issued guidance precluding recreational flying continues to apply". They then say "we will provide another update as soon as the guidance is updated". So there you have it. Flying is not a sport. That's a pretty "subjective" position they have chosen to hide behind their semantics.... the thing about "subjective" positions is.... Errr, well... they are "subjective" so I guess we are free to trump their "subjective" position with our own "subjective" position.We can all follow our own subjective lead until a more "OBJECTIVE" position trumps it! In the meantime, their "authority" over my "sport", lacks any meaningful legitimacy. The logic for our little corner of existence seems to favor a return to personal responsibility for the things we chose to do especially as they "objectively" conform to the means by which we have chosen (as a country) to minimize the spread of the lurgy. I'm okay with my subjective position, dunno about anyone else's... none of my business 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chrsfrwll Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Hang gliding and paragliding have to my mind been considered sports. Weren’t they thinking of including them in the Olympics? Certainly considered a “dangerous sport” when looking for insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackburn Mark Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 It is unlikely that Sub70 flight is included in their "sport" determination as we do not fall within their sphere of control. Anyone uncomfortable with making their own determination on the issue have the option to play golf at their disposal despite how much more likely they are of spreading / catching the lurgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan88 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 "The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion" Albert Camus 1914 - 1960. "Just waiting on those thermals to settle down" Nathan88 1988 - Present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, AndyB said: Full text..... Guidance from when goverment said stay at home.now it no longer apply,s,,ppg was not banned, we stayed at home as a good will guesture. ppg is a sport and leisure activity.. in field on your own.ticks all new goverment social distance policy.s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackburn Mark Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nathan88 said: Just waiting on those thermals to settle down Looks like it might be quite bouncy out there at the mo. Option 1) Freezing cold but nice and smooooth Option 2) Nice and warm but rough as old boots Always wishing for the "other" option! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 35 minutes ago, Blackburn Mark said: Looks like it might be quite bouncy out there at the mo. Option 1) Freezing cold but nice and smooooth Option 2) Nice and warm but rough as old boots Always wishing for the "other" option! fri/sat early look ok.2 brezzy 2 day,so went out on the lanes with bike,for a blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan88 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) Option 1. I'd rather have small balls from the cold than have huge balls from riding the worlds highest trackless roller-coaster. UV's hitting 6 here on a cloudless day. Stay safe to those that do decide to fly, I think everyone is feeling anxious to get up but don't rush it, let the rust fall of naturally. Edited May 14, 2020 by Nathan88 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackburn Mark Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, jock said: fri/sat early look ok.2 brezzy 2 day,so went out on the lanes with bike,for a blast. I'm not as optimistic as you... No escape if I push out to the coast (stronger out there) no escape above cloud-base (stronger up there) and I can only deal with getting my arse kicked for short periods of time.... short flights are not really my thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackburn Mark Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nathan88 said: Option 2. I'd rather have small balls from the cold Give me a shout when its -12 at cloud-base Every third Blue Moon, its smooth and warm.... and I am working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrsfrwll Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Thermal updraft velocity predictions for tomorrow 11:00am - 400ft/min. Definitely want to have early flight and get down before that lot are kicking off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Interesting that all the kite surfers are out in force today but im not allowed to fly 100yd away from them on the dunes?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelmesh Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, toploader said: Im sick of being told what i can or cant do to be honest. Im off to the dunes as soon as its flyable! They said the sky is falling though, won't you be in the sky while it's falling? Seems dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 British Hang Gliding and Paragliding Association 13 mins · Folks. Thanks for your patience. I have just received a letter from the DCMS saying that, in England, all outdoor sports are now permitted without time limit. I will put together a neater post when I get back to a computer. Let's go flying ! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 On 14/05/2020 at 15:30, chrsfrwll said: Thermal updraft velocity predictions for tomorrow 11:00am - 400ft/min. Definitely want to have early flight and get down before that lot are kicking off. Really interesting type of info Chris. May I ask the name of the site where I could get it please? Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrsfrwll Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, Guy said: Really interesting type of info Chris. May I ask the name of the site where I could get it please? Guy I used this one. Regional Atmospheric Soaring Prediction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobDob Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 DfT Covid Guidance.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerlord Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 sunny, thermal and about 10-12mph ground wind today. And after cleaning the van, I thought I'd check BHPA site and found I could fly again. Last flight January before the knee op. 3 months since knee op, which is early, but physio says I'm at the stage most folk are after 6 months, so feck it - I went for a wee 20 min flight today just to get back in the air. I only had 2.5 liters of fuel, and it was bumpy and thermal as buggery, but it was just good to get back up in the air frankly. I visibility of about 60 miles so nice views (as nice as they get in billiard table suffolk anyhoo), and thermals have never bothered me much. Surprised not more folk commenting about flights - I was a bit worried I'd read it wrong so checked BHPA again to be sure - and I'm sure was all allowed. The fact the skies were full of GA was also a give away - never seen so many wee planes around here than today. Anyhoo - got up, got down, landed on my feet, no issues with knee. So all in all, I call that a win. Looks like some better weather over the week, so might have another go now I've got some more fuel, etc. stu 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrsfrwll Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 It was 10/12 gusting 20/25, cold air and bright warm sun here. Those thermals would have been the icing in the cake. Way beyond anything I wanted to try, so gave it a miss. I’m pinning my hopes on Wednesday morning. Planning an early start to catch the sunrise, if the forecast holds good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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