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Can I fly in or near this chevroned corridor?

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I have got an airspace map for the Coventry and Warwickshire area where I live. 

I can see that there is a decent size area I can fly in to the East of Coventry airport below the CTA of 4500'.

On the map there is a black chevroned area which I think is an instrument flight Procedures 'zone' with a radio beacon. (see attached picture and area in question marked with a red arrow.)

I want to know if I am allowed to fly in or near to this area below 4500'? 

It's obviously the main runway approach into Coventry airport and not somewhere I would particularly choose to spend any time flying in but I wanted to be clear of of the rules. 

Thanks, Ian

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Hi, I live inside Durham Tees Valley CTA. I often fly under the end of the main runway approach which is 3000 to 6000 and covers some of Redcar beach (I fly off the beach). The planes coming in are clearly visible and always much higher than the 3000. You can fly right up to the circular CTA, provided you are below the outer airspace (2000 to 4000).

The hashed part you mention is as you say, for guidance.

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Thanks for your help Andy. ?

The dotted circle is an ATZ(aerodrome Traffic ZONE)  which go from surface to 2000'.

Im not sure what the outer airspace is which you refer to (2000-4000)?

To the east of Coventry ATZ is the Daventry CTA A 4500'+

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I've just found this on the Legend which refers to the chevroned corridor to which u refer as an IAP.  I note that it says any pilot intending to fly within 10nm of this IAP symbol are strongly advised to contact the aerodrome!

This would have a huge effect on where I should fly if I have to keep 10nm away.

 

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Simon W, in your instructor capacity, can you clarify whether I'm OK to fly in or within 10 nm of this corridor? I see that you liked Andy's post but the Legend on the chart may suggest that the zone may have restrictions that I 'should' adhere to.  I ask as I am uncertain. 

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The more bothersome air-space restrictions are the solid thin black lines. I live inside the pink airport over Darlington/Middlesbrough, so I fly on the Cleveland hills.  That black line is a NOTAM. Clicking on it says "area of intense aerial activity, surface to FL190". Just after flying Monday, two Eurofighters came skimming over the hill!!!! They are based in Teesside airport and often fly here. 

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27 minutes ago, AndyB said:

The more bothersome air-space restrictions are the solid thin black lines. I live inside the pink airport over Darlington/Middlesbrough, so I fly on the Cleveland hills.  That black line is a NOTAM. Clicking on it says "area of intense aerial activity, surface to FL190". Just after flying Monday, two Eurofighters came skimming over the hill!!!! They are based in Teesside airport and often fly here. 

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What online chart are you using just out of interest? Runway HD?  I'm going to be flying down in Cornwall and I don't want to have any close encounters with any low flying jets from RAF smSt Mawgan or Culdrose! ?

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ILS approach. Normally 3 degs vertical from the runway threshold. It’s too let you know but if it’s outside controlled airspace then you can fly legally within although be careful. 

I have had been spoken to by Farnbourgh atc whilst flying fixed wing through the ils approach (not much choice as it’s a pinch point) as if I had breached there controlled airspace. I told them I was squawking there listening code and was outside there airspace but listening in. 

They backed down and admitted I had done nothing wrong  

 

 

 

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Thanks for the info Kevin. I don't have a radio yet but I should  get one and do the radio course. 

If it's no breaching any rules by flying near or even in it I may well have cause to briefly, albeit at low altitude,  500-1000 just to get to the other side of it. 

I note that the Legend text does state pilots are strongly advised to contact ATC if going in or near it. 

That would be well below the controlled airspace above 4500'.

 

 

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You could always telephone before taking off and explain. At least they would know a paramotor was below the approach. I did this before I had a radio when flying close to a military zone (matz) they were really helpful. 

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Yes you can fly in this chevron area as long as it’s outside of controlled airspace. It’s simply telling you that you should expect aircraft being positioned onto an instrument approach and you should expect it to be busier than just standard class G airspace.

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