admin (Simon W) Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 All, here is the video of Connors accident. I had the chance to ask him today if it was OK to share it. Please be considerate when posting in response to this video. 'Constructive' advice is welcome. Connor is well aware that pilot error here was the cause so has been punished enough for that with his injuries. He is recovering very well and has a very positive spirit! SW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartasutherland Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Thanks for sharing, glad he is on the road to recovery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickieW Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Thank you Conner for sharing, this video provides important information that some of us can learn from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin (Simon W) Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 I will edit the post above to mention that he is recovering very well SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas_whitmore Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Your alive that's all that counts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Jackson Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Shit oh mighty that's scary. You went in really hard Connor... bloody glad you're still with us!!!!! Another 50-100ft higher and it looks like the wing may have recovered, half of it was flying all the way down. Sooooo glad you're on the mend amigo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tambo Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Conner, I'm really glad you made it back from that real bad accident, your'e a super guy, It'll be good to see you back even with your kettle, Tom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedwarpimp Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 That was pretty tough to watching, Amazing he survived and great news it sounds like he will make a full recovery. Can I ask what wing or specifically what wing loading. Having flown PG for quite some time and have completed an SIV, I was shocked to see how the wing started to rotate after the initial asymmetric collapse, the collapse seemed rather small and to be fair the wing seemed to level out as I would expect for something that small, before going in to an autorotation. (Did the pilot fall into the collapsed side or brake on the deflated side?) Being new to using a motor and reflex wing I would like to know if this reaction is more likely on these wings than a normal free flying wing. In SIV I pulled a full asymmetric and full weight shift into the collapsed side and only managed an autorotation 1 out of 3 or 4 attempts). I know the wing loading is much higher on these motor wings, still can’t get over I fly a smaller wing size with my motor than I do my free flying. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cianpars Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I don't know how much G force he was pulling Pedwarpimp, but I suppose a momentary loss of conciousness could have occurred?. Could have been low hours on that type of wing? I'm sure that data on wing loading will be provided in due course. But whatever caused the collapse, there was insufficient alritude to recover and surely that must be the over-riding lesson. The most important thing is that Connor survived and his recovery. Luckily he is young and fit and this will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Dynamic collapse with unforgiving altitude. It fits the description in the synth 2 manual, very quick and spontaneous re-inflation... but just a bit to close to the ground. Quick entry into a 360 spiral with power (fun), then off the throttle, hands up and then what looks like a forced exit with counter steering on left side. The engine rev up on the surge after the quick exit together with too much exit speed, so that would be the biggest pilot error in this situation, even if it's just a short push on the throttle. Then we have the left turn that unloads the side even more after exit, and collapse, if this also was counter torque, then it would be even worse. Hard left break pump after the collapse might have saved the situation with a close call, but probably not with the lack of altitude. Easy mistake when exiting maneuvers with high speed. Only assist exit if needed, don't force it. This is often described in manuals and on acro pages. Watch spiral dive exit videos on youtube to learn more and be a safer pilot. This is also a possible outcome when the timing and exit on wing-overs and asymmetrical spirals are wrong. Also mentioned in the synth 2 manual btw. As you see in the video it has to be done correct on low altitude since it's very unforgiving if done wrong. Simply don't do it if your not already very familiar with acro. Even if you are uninterested in acro flying, anyone will still benefit to read about it to get a solid understanding of the typical behavior a paraglider have in these situations. Thanks for sharing, and hope you recover well Connor, not many gets a second chance. Edited December 18, 2017 by Casper 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shobbers Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 All the very best for a speedy recovery buddy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy J Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 So glad to know your on the mend !! Here's wishing you a full and complete recovery. Sandy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just a reminder about the highly motivated to learn person that Connor is. Hope his recovery is full and speedy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffw Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 HI connor hope you get well soon and I will see you at the next pmc summer fly-in. Geoffw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamishdylan Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Hi Connor, Hang on in there and every best wish for a full and speedy recovery. Thank you for having the grace to share the video of your accident; post accident analysis is so helpful for other pilots who can go through the 'what would I do if this happened to me?' consideration. Life is too short to make every mistake yourself so it really helps to learn from others. Best wishes HD 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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