Shorehambeach Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Does any one else daisy chain their lines ? I find it work well but does anyone else have a better way to stow the lines ? When I get the wing out i simply hold the risers - walk backwards and everything is there - untangled - ready to go.... Starts @ 2.43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I have no better way so I always daisy chain my lines. After that I remove my risers from the carbiner and connect them, then I put the risers in a separate folder on my stuffbag and close it with velcro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asquaddie Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I daisy chain my lines, but have a gap of 12-15 inches between the knot. What is the point in doing 30 knots if only 3-4 knots holds the lines in place and of course do not get tangled up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I don't daisy chain. Was taught to place riser tabs one into the other, then starting about half a meter along the lines, coil the lines in loops that are smaller than half a meter - so they can't get near the ends of the risers. When putting in bag the risers are always wrapped under a piece of wing, away from the rest of the coils. Never had a tangle yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Did that, had a tangle, never again. Not sure how it could tangle, maybe something moved that I didn't see. The next time I went out to fly it was in such a mess that I didn't fly that day, or the day after. Somehow I must have lifted the risers, I had a top break delta through a top C line delta, I could never figure it out how it happened. Edited November 21, 2017 by Casper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Then try this for super quick untangling. Lay riser out straight (ish). Pick up the main (front) A riser lines.....but start from the wing end. Now as you travel out from the wing, keep the A line running thru your right hand. If you encounter any other lines going over the top of the A, just scoop them up into your left hand. When you reach the riser, pull it under the lines in your left hand (cos they are the ones in the wrong place). All is now untangled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamjedgar Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) I have found that daisy chain works nicely on sheathed lines but is terrible for knots on unsheathed lines. Since i have gliders with both line types i use both techniques spoken of here. Edited November 23, 2017 by adamjedgar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankNL Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Daisy chaining did not really work for me. The knots sometimes get too tight and I have to work (omg!) to get it loose again. I have always used the technique described by AndyB, never had an issue with knots or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 3 hours ago, FrankNL said: Daisy chaining did not really work for me. The knots sometimes get too tight and I have to work (omg!) to get it loose again. I have always used the technique described by AndyB, never had an issue with knots or anything. I'm with you Frank, only daisy chained once and everything got really 'tight'. I couldn't get it sorted at the field and had to go back home to get it untangled in the privacy of my garden. On another but similar topic (packing the wing) how does everyone cope with the plastic leading edge reinforcements? Stuffing the wing in a bag seems liable to damage them so I have taken to concertinaing the leading edge, turning the reinforcements flat to the ground (in a pile) and strapping them together. The rest of the wing is simply gathered up and bagged. This always seems a bit long winded so does anyone have a more straightforward solution that will still prevent the plastic pieces being bent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, Guy said: This always seems a bit long winded so does anyone have a more straightforward solution that will still prevent the plastic pieces being bent? When gathering and looping my lines I keep a finger separating the A lines from the rest of the lines. When I get close to the canopy and it's nicely gathered I pass the A lines into my other hand and continue pulling them in on their own. The leading edge gathers together nicely and I then dump the wing trailing edge first in to a Paramania MultiBag with the leading edge on top and nicely gathered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I have been coiling as my new Roadster as per my previous description for the past 18 months. It is always kept in the big bag and rarely packed flat in sausage bag (only when I travel and need more room in car!). Just got wing back from The Loft. No damaged plastic bits. I like your A line trick Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I like it too Steve Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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