A simple question

[sandman]

now the rules re trikes under 70Kg are here and effectivly eliminate the disability exemption does it mean one can train on a trike, or has the CAA done for people wishing to fly paratrikes what a visit to Lourdes hasnt ,so far I have been told you still need to do foot launch training before moving to trikes, which does seem at odds with the concept of a fair playing field, any wisdom imparted is most welcome

[admin (Simon W)]

Both the PMC and the BHPA are currently writing a training sylibuss. Legally yes, but non of the UK based training organisations is quite ready to 'roll it out' yet. 

As I guess, I would say that we (PMC) will be ready in 3-4 weeks time I am not sure about the BHPA but I would guess about the same. 

SW

 

[sandman]

Thanks Simon

[AndyB]

Just for info. Skyschool already do Trike training as many of their customers are outside UK....where Trikes were already allowed. Follows APPI training programme I believe. 

There has been quite some publicity re their veteran with no legs that learnt on trike then flew some big challenges like John O'Groats to Lands End!

[admin (Simon W)]

At the moment it looks very much like the AXA Policy (the only non linked policy that APPI or ANYONE can get) will not meet the CAA requirements of insurance for the aircraft type. So it's likely that any APPI taught people will now require either a PMC or BHPA sign off to get adequate insurance to be legal to fly a trike in the UK. 

Until the APPI find an underwriter to underwrite the sylibuss (rather than a policy that someone who purchased from e-bay can go and buy) this will remain the case. 

SW

 

[AndyB]

Better get you some beers then

 

[sandman]

Thanks for getting on the case Simon, that is valuable info indeed

 

[Eddie]

Hi,

So if I am a BHPA paraglider Club Pilot (relapsed but none the less I can pay my dues and get third party insurance), then 'technically' I don't need to be signed-off (complete 'formal' PMC training syllabus)  to gain 3rd party insurance as my BHPA membership will cover it?

With that in mind, there is 'technically' no reason why I can not just go out and by a motor and fly as long as I fulfil my moral obligation to ensure I have 3rd party cover?

Eddie

[admin (Simon W)]

Hi Eddie, 

As a BHPA CP Pilot, you will only be covered for 3rd party to Paraglide. For your insurance to be valid with them to Paramotor, you will need to do a 'power rating' and your 'pilot rating'

As it stand's I think CP pilots are insured to fly not more than 5-km away from an instructor. One has to be pilot rated for this. 

Also, as an existing BHPA paragliding pilot, the PMC system allows for you to get our insurance immediately. Although we do like to 'assess' a little first, as we have found many, in fact most of the CP pilots require a couple of days  to find a happy place and feel confident. 

Another point to note: There is no legal requirement for you to be insured (assuming foot launching) but it is of course the sensible thing to do  

SW

 

[Eddie]

4 hours ago, admin (Simon W) said:

Hi Eddie, 

As a BHPA CP Pilot, you will only be covered for 3rd party to Paraglide. For your insurance to be valid with them to Paramotor, you will need to do a 'power rating' and your 'pilot rating'

As it stand's I think CP pilots are insured to fly not more than 5-km away from an instructor. One has to be pilot rated for this. 

Also, as an existing BHPA paragliding pilot, the PMC system allows for you to get our insurance immediately. Although we do like to 'assess' a little first, as we have found many, in fact most of the CP pilots require a couple of days  to find a happy place and feel confident. 

Another point to note: There is no legal requirement for you to be insured (assuming foot launching) but it is of course the sensible thing to do  

SW

 

Top man - don't want to end down a dead end with insurance just because I am not a BHPA member.....................:-)