admin (Simon W) Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 did you spot the problem!!!! SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas_whitmore Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Stuck out like sore thumb . Or not in this case . cas . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szabi Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) By the way, what life time these carabiners have? Should they be ever replaced if there is no obvious sign of wear? Edited April 24, 2017 by Szabi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 There is a train of thought that says replace every 10 years, irrespective of usage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi k Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Thanks Si thats an easy 1, But without inspecting Carabiner hard to determine if its operator error or equipment failure . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asquaddie Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Surprised how it 'flew so well' 'or fell so well' just dangling on one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas_whitmore Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Right yep got it now ' carabiner, dam it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi k Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Si or anyone else trainer or not having watched this now in slow mo, i think he's a very lucky man to of got to a safe height to deploy his chute, as its clear to see it only slipped off because he applied left brake, which in turn fractionally unloaded the right side and out it popped (almost out anyway). So my question is I've never been told which direction to place my carabiners in, but from a safety aspect i thought they are trying to pull outwards so open side in, and i have an older paramotor where carabiners are located in the breast straps. I have only been told to make sure clipped in pre check flight So correct or not ? Til watching this I've never thought about it Please tell me Also is there such a thing as a towing carabiner or do you just use higher tensile strength load rated ones. Edited April 25, 2017 by kiwi k because i can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerlord Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 oofsk. My heart was in my mouth watching that from the start - I think all I could look at was that carabiner. lucky lucky boy. With best will in the world, we are all only human and feck up now and again - I've had time when I've been flying on occasions in the list 12 years and then noticed: one of my risers is twisted (no biggy) - have I got control. is it flying ok - fine. leave it. my chest strap was not done up (er.. a bit more of a biggy). do it up. one of my leg straps was not done up - clip hadn't clipped fully and had undone on takeoff (arg... you feckwit). do it up and if you can't land asap being aware of it. best will in the world, one time your rushed, or have had 3 or 4 aborts and unclips and get hot and sweating and that's when you can make mistakes. Best advice I can give is: - have a routine sequence and NEVER break it. EVER EVER. Extend it to almost like some sort of OCD thing eventually it will stop feeling silly and start feeling natural. for example, my leg straps get done, then my chest, then my shoulder brace, then my dash gets attached. then I stand up, then I sort right brake, then I sort left brake... that kinda thing. I never sort left brake first. I never sort chest strap first. That order and routine, eventually gets ingrained. - be aware of distractions that will affect it (maybe someone is talking to you as you go through your prep for example - so apologise and tell them you can't talk to them now, can they please leave to to your preperations - cause that will be when you do something like break out of your task prep order - maybe your lucky, look down and realise while talking to them you've just done your chest straps up, but totally forgot your leg straps and go back... maybe you don't and they stop speaking and you are like 'ok chest strap done, now shoulder, now stand up, etc' - it's all it takes. - if you start to get stressed or tired - maybe you've had a few fails or feel pressure for some reason STOP. unclip. step away, rest. stu 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin (Simon W) Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 13 hours ago, asquaddie said: Surprised how it 'flew so well' 'or fell so well' just dangling on one!! Reserve deployed mate. SW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_k Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Excellent post Stu and a mirror to what I do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asquaddie Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 10 hours ago, admin (Simon W) said: Reserve deployed mate. Yep, seen after I watched it the second time. First time, I had my eyes shut when I saw the carabiner open 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 GOSH !! This is clearly a pre-flight check failure. The guy was very lucky in having the reserve even if it was (I suppose) a low altitude training flight by winch. The real question is : what would you do if you suddenly notice a situation like this while flying ? Try to push the strap back in the carabiner (easy to say, hard to do) ? Immediately try to land ? Try to reach an area free by obstacles and deploy the reserve ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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