forecaster

Hi, Vittorazi says Vittorazi Atom 80 MY'20 comes with a new line of Walbro WB carb. I have narrowed the model list down to WB-32 and WB-37 but not sure which one it in fact is. Vittorazi's part number is AT090b (compared to AT090a in MY'19 which was Walbro WG-8).

Hi, I'm using my Atom80 with the stock 2-blade, 125cm Helix prop but have heard around that the three-blade ones generate less noise and vibrations (although this engine is really smooth). First of all, can you confirm that? If that's the case then what 3-blade carbon-fiber prop should I be looking for? Vittorazi offers only the one that I've got, there is some news https://vittorazi.com/en/notizia/new-atom-80-propellers-in-collaboration-with-helix/ but my dealer says it's the same to what I have. I know that the props are targeted to engines by their power so I probably can't just take the prop from Moster 185, right?

I've ordered (not arrived yet) a Solo 24 for my 105kg of take-off weight. I am new to paramotor but not-so-new in pagarliging per se (have been freeflying for 10 years now). I was following my instructor's advice and the manufacturer statement at https://www.dudek.eu/en/products/solo.html: So Solo 24 being 80-130kg range makes me fit perfect middle of it. Before I've made a call, I've flown Solo 24 and I liked it. Since I've ordered the paraglider however, I've been seeing lots of pilots flying Solos of smaller sizes to fit the upper range or even exceed it but maybe they're just more experienced than I am. Anyways, spring is coming, I can't wait for the wing to come soon.... Cheers!

I'm preparing my paramotor for winter break during which I'd like to keep it in the living room. Except for plugging the air intake and exhaust holes I'd like to fully get rid of fuel in the tank and all pipes. Can I store the paramotor for a few months with no fuel in the carburetor? I've heard that the fuel conserves the membranes but as they are made of rubber/plastic it's hard for me to believe it. this material doesn't soak up fuel. Besides, they are not delivered or stored in the shops immersed in the fuel, right? If it's not recommended, why is that and what are the potential issues or damages it could make to the carburetor? Cheers, forecaster

This trick really requires skills and experience and I can hardly imagine a non-trained pilot doing it safely....

Ok, I think I got what @adamjedgar meant - the cage pushed backwards by the tight lines/raisers leaning against it when I added thrust.

While I totally buy the 2nd outcome (commented below), I must admit I hardly comprehend this phenomena. I can't imagine how the thrust could pull the loose raisers at such a power that those raisers bend the cage and make the propeller catch the cage... Or I misunderstood it completely I think you are right that what happened to me was that the A line got sucked in by the propeller just when I let the lines get loose (did not pull the canopy strong enough after the first pull backwards). I will postpone my power launches by the time I get confident and hands on with the paramotor on my back.

Thanks @AndyB, it makes a lot of sense. I will put more attention to keeping the pressure on the glider and have the lines tight all the time. Also, I will apply throttle only when the wing is over my head or close to that point.

Getting back to tubings that smell gasoline like hell, is this normal? The ProPPG kit doesn't address that problem so even if I plug the exhaust and air intake the tubings will generate lots of smell - does it make sense to replace them or any rubbery tubings will be the same?

70kg / 154 pounds. Already bought this paramotor and am happy with it

Yeah, I know it's hard to tell not seeing the incident, the question was more to get your opinion whether there is any chance that the lines tensed during the launch may get caught by the propeller or not. I have 10 years experience in free-flying in the mountains, completely new to powered paragliding though but I can tell the training I got was a decent one. I assume I may have not checked that the line was already in contact with the prop before I applied throttle, and then it would be clear to me what I done wrong.

Well, nothing to be added here, really @HDY run until the harness takes you up from the ground. When you start feeling a pressure on the leg straps is probably when you begin sitting down as your brain gets the message "uhhh, we are in the air". Well, you are definitely not, ignore this impression and just keep running and keeping the appropriate amount of throttle until your legs firmly lose contact with the ground. In mountain paragliding, especially in thermals, when you often have the ridge you've launched from right behind your back it's still not a right moment to sit down but instead wait to gain more altitude and distance from it just in case you get collapse or sth, and only then sit down. Are you afraid of starting to fly with your body hanging on your leg and chest straps and not having your butt well supported by the harness seating? This is maybe why you want to get safely seated as quick as possible but end up doing that way too early.

I'll share my thought on that as I'm new to paramotor but quite experienced in paragliding itself - launching with a motor is completely different than without it in the mountains and I found it working good for me when launching with a motor: keep running until the wing and the harness lift you up from the ground without any work other than just running and controlling the glider above you (and adding throttle of course). Be prepared that you will get lifted and fly while leaning against the straps, relax, they won't let you fall Then when you gain some altitude just kick your knees up firmly and you'll get sitting in your harness. Not saying it's the right way but works for me.

Hi, I am new to paramotor and not so new to paragliding itself (100+ hours of airtime). My last takeoff in the complete windless conditions has gone wrong, luckily only the paraglider line broken, no other issues. It was a classic/front launch but from the beginning I couldn't make all the risers and lines cleared up although they were good - I was not sure A's are on the top of the other lines so I was trying to clean it up while having the glider at the back of me. Evening, mosquitos started to bite, I started getting impatient as the sun was setting and very likely did not check everything. Because it was absolutely windless, right when I started pulling the A risers I added thrust to add myself more energy and then felt slight tension on the left brake and heard a broken line. Turned out that the main A line. the one closer to the center of the glider got rolled on the propeller hub and - luckily for me - very quickly burnt as it was rolling really tight one scroll next to each other. Now, I am absolutely sure I should have not launched in that state of mind, it was irresponsible. But what am trying to figure out now is what actually happened. Is that possible that the A line, the one that I'm pulling when launching gets hooked by the propeller with the propeller's diameter being smaller than the cage? Well, I'd expect more C or brake lines to get loose and being hooked, but not the A ones which are tight. Really confused here.... Maybe I've hooked the A line when trying to clear it up before the start, but still, when pulling it during the start it should have leant over the cage and tighten making the room for the propeller. I strongly believe the line was not tangled 360 over the propeller's hub before I added throttle because right before I started to run, with my lines still loose I gave the engine some throttle and then released. Below are the photos of my paramotor. What do you think? Any hint will probably be helpful

Makes lots of sense, I did not consider intake and exhaust which are directly connected with internals filled with fuel and air mixture. As for the fuel hose itself, do you consider it normal that they smell gasoline so intensively or maybe I have it of low quality?

I'd like to be able to keep my paramotor kit in the apartment especially in winter when I can't keep it on my balcony (where I keep it under waterproof grill cover). Noticed that the only part of it that smells gasoline to me is the fuel hose. Does every hose smell gasoline because its density is less than the gasoline vapor or maybe there are more expensive ones that are fume-proof? What other elements of the kit generate the smell? On the venting hose of the fuel tank I have a valve that for sure limits the emission of the smell, I think the tank itself generate negligible amounts of fume.

Hi, I'm about to buy my first paramotor kit, the Vittorazi Atom 80 and I'm about to pick it up next week. This is Atom 80 MY20, which I can confirm by the new Walbro WG8 carburetor which is new to MY20 compared to MY19. Other than that it comes with an aluminium single ring cage, Dudek PowerSeat Comfort harness, gooseneck bars (pipes, not the alu profiles) with bearings, 15 liter fuel tank (overkill for this engine but I have no choice at the moment) and the stock Helix props. What do you think I should take a closer look at when buying it? I've seen it live, engine seems to be new (however the exhaust pipe seems to be sliiiighly scorched, i.e it isn't clear silver but goes yellowish - the manufacturer says he was running it for the second time in his backyard. The total kit weighs 21kg with fuel tank empty. The price is approx. 85% of the average retail prices in my country, it's manufacture by a small production facility but I have it close to where I live so service shall not be an issue. What do you think? What to look at, what to check when buying? What equipment I should get along with the kit (any appliances/additions/tools that come bundled with the engine?).

Hello, First of all I'd like to say hi as I'm new on this forum. I am new to paramotor sport, so far free-flying with for 10 years and decided to go fuel-powered to enhance my experience. I'd like to get your opinions on how Atom 80 is (or is not) better than the Top 80 engines in terms of noise and vibrations it generates and also its reliability. The thing is I can buy a used Miniplane Top 80 (full gear with frame, harness etc) with fully renovated motor just now for exactly half the price of new Atom 80 (also full gear) and I wonder if it makes sense to reach deeper into my wallet to have the Atom 80. Miniplane has better carbon pipe cage, while the Atom 80 gear that I'm offered is aluminium construction, I like the Miniplane's one more (lighter). The same lifting construction (active, goose-neck) for both. I was flying Top 80 lately, it's powerful enough for me (I am 70kg guy, flying with a classic paraglider) but what I disliked a bit was vibrations especially present on the left paraglider raisers and alsmost none at the right ones (why is that so by the way?). Not sure if Atom 80 generates less vibrations. Cheers! /forecaster