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Hi Basically what scotty said. I am the importer for the brand in the UK so obviously my views will be very biased, so best for others to comment. Lovely wing tho ! We just had the Dobermann out over the last couple of days, another excellent wing that works well for very fast free flight aswell as Slalom! Pics :- http://www.niviuk.co.uk/camera/index.ph ... zA3YTRiOTQ Phil.

Some pictures here of me and Simon flying the Kougar 2 http://www.niviuk.co.uk/camera/index.ph ... ViZGE2N2Qw A LOT of fun !

Thor 110 perhaps ?

Hi the washer spaces the spring away from the plate, so it cant vibrate against the plate which I think is where the problem lies as all the paints been removed... I dont think it can add friction, but maybe, its a very odd one !

What a pity, can you post a pic of the inside of the flash starter back plate, on mine you can see all the paints come off, are your clutch dogs ( pawls ) worn at all , we originally thought it was these engaging on the steel starter plate on the back of the engine but its definitely not that on mine. Washers where all about 1mm thick. Also I took the c ring off the end of the starter and compressed it far beyond what it was before. Looking at the unit, theres only 3 places it can bind and vibrate out, the dogs can vibrate outwards and touch the starter cage ( try putting white paint on the dogs and see if this ), the spring on the back plate ( that happened with mine ) or the outer ring of the recoil housing touching the back plate, also put white paint on and see where its catching ?

Just sorted it, I think Ran the engine for full for 1 minute with lots of pressure in the recoil still, happy days ! Basically the problem is, as the starter wears a little, in the recoil spring area , the whole assembly is too tight up together. As the engine reaches a natural frequency the recoil spring vibrates against the metal back plate of the starter, thus uncoiling the spring, its a very strange one but thats the problem it seems. I have put a small fibre washer between the backplate and the recoil spring and then 2 lock washers between the bolt and the backplate, pics attached, the whole assembly is now spaced away from the back plate so the spring can not touch, I would think machining some washers to fit would more suitable but its all I had at the time and I want to go flying now ! This works for me, hope it works for someone else, anyone using a Flash started should perhaps check this and think about making the mod before your starter ends up in the prop, seems to me a bit of a design fault.... !

Hi thanks for the reply, I am just in the process of putting a little bolt sticking out of the starter so after I start the engine I can tie the flash starter off to stop it moving, a temporary fix for now so I can actually fly ! I cant believe there hasnt been more occurrences of this, as I have like you bought another starter and its done the same thing, waste of £130 unfortunately we cant see a cure as we originally thought the dogs on the starter were vibrating out but we added a bit of bungie to hold them in and it still does it, the only thing I can think of us either vibration or air from the fan..... but neither seem likely as the return spring is really strong !? I have tried the spacer idea as you say, no use. Will keep trying ! Phil.

Its extremely odd, theres nothing in contact with the starter itself, theres no reason for this to happen, looks like theres many other occurances of this :- [youtubevideo] [/youtubevideo]We even tried adding a bungie cord inside the starter to rewind the shoes that move out to engage the engine to no avail.... we thought perhaps the air coming into the engine via the housing perhaps as theres no contact with anything else . HELP Not sure on hours or starts unfortunately, its the 110 cc, no mods. I have recently replaced the inners of the flash starter with brand new ones and it worked fine for 5 hours and then the starter snagged and shredded.....again..... Thanks Phil.

No, its not that ,the handle is fine, its the cord that retracts out of the pulley mechanism, therefore the cord itself can loop back and into the starter..... [youtubevideo] [/youtubevideo]Thanks tho !

The pulley unwinds at full throttle,I have taken the entire flash starter apart about 20 times now checked all the bits, had it without grease, with grease, cleaned it, tensioned the spring as far as it will go, spent about 6 hours trying to sort it, can NOT understand whats going on Any ideas would be helpful! The bungee cord is one idea, but doesnt really solve the problem as sometimes when it fully unwound itself it can still go into the prop ..... HELP !

Did you manage to sort this problem, mine is doing the same thing again , 5 hours after changing the internals of the flash starter, getting really annoying now ta