jean-christophe

Hi all, after a very unpleasant period, I have finally been refund my money. I had to ask help because the French dealer has been really dishonest, waiting 1 month and an official postmail to give my money back... Parajet seems to be very worried by the situation. I had a good contact with them ... just the French dealer made some very bad work, saying a lot of bad things to me about Parajet ... I didn't know who I had to trust ! Parajet works on its brochures ... in my opinion, they deserve to have a good picture in paramotor's world ... it was just not the one for me ! I hope they will find a new (and honest) dealer in France. End of this topic for me. Sincerely yours. Jean-Christophe

Neither do I, that's why I think we should only write here the reported weight, the one we have really measured by ourselves, and not the one which is claimed by the constructor. Each one who wants to buy a paramotor is able to find any claimed specification about any paramotor. It's true I have been very disapointed by the one I had chosen, unfortunately it semms to be one of the worst about weight claim ; and so it has been impossible to accept it ! Do believe that I would have done the same investigation in any similar case about any other brand. Thank you ! That was my only goal. Jean-Christophe

[quote name="Poz"... it's not just about the actual weight of the paramotor on the scales' date=' so much as how it feels on your back.... Dan[/quote] I fully agree. The only reason why I have weighed it is that it hurt my back just when I took it from the garage of my house to the garden (to hang at the swing crossbar to fit the straps). Walking only 20m made me feel very bad. I would have accepted a couple of extra kg ... 32.5 (average measurement) for 24.6 is much more than a couple. I'm really not at ease with all this : I have never seen such a well made paramotor. IMO it looks perfect, except that Parajet seems not to have realised that they had slipped over the acceptable limit (about weight lie). Maybe they are as victim as guilty of a stupid competition of lies which they took part in. I had an email today from Parajet : The material should be picked up in the week by a transport company. I hope my money to be refund quickly now by my dealer.

Don't forget : That's what my dealer told me ! JC

Thank you for that. I have learnt on a miniplane ; I know it very well. I just blame it to look like DIY and its cage is not convenient. A friend of mine bought one last year : he has weighed it : a little less than 18,5 kg (expected to weigh 18 kg) which is very interesting (and honest) About my situation : I didn't buy it on the internet but via a dealer. He asked me to send back the material, and then he will refund me. Not sure it's correct, but I want to forget all this as quickly as possible, so do what he asks me to. JC

Following the end of another topic, I propose to try to have a precise value of weignt. If many of us have the same paramotor, you can, for example, add your measure to the previous, we can make an average estimation. Weight is measured ready to fly, but without any fuel. Copy and complete this list : Dont laugh with the first (mine) : JPX 425 - rigid stainless steel frame and cage, 80cm wood prop - 27kg Flat-Top 200 with 2 blade prop 29 kilos dry weight. approx 80 kg thrust Jean-Christophe

I think I should open a new topic ... this has now to separated from "Volution special edition" I do it now.

We all agree with the idea that they (nearly) all are lying with weight, which is part of the "game" ... but do you consider a 30% extra value is acceptable ? I don't. Would it be a correct idea to complete the list of paramotor with the real weight ? Maybe with other specifications ? or is it unapropriate ?(Simon W?) JC

Specifications : http://www.flyvolution.com/range/compact Extract from the limited edition specification sheet : " The Volution 500 Limited Edition has been given a striking orange cage with black anodised parts and chassis, and is fitted with a SupAir harness - all of which form only part of an impressive visual presence that matches all its engineering brilliance. With a modified crank case and shaft, the Volution 500 Limited Edition not only boasts more power but is 1.4kg lighter. Volution 500 Highlights • Unique colour scheme • Modified crank case • Modified crank shaft • Improved cage connectors • Fitted with Sup-Air harness • 1.4kg lighter • Limited edition Parajet flying jacket " --- I had an answer today via my dealer : yesterday, Parajet has weighed and confirms the difference ; They say it's because the specification sheet has not been updated since previous series (I don't understand how they can justify 1.4 kg lighter if they didn't check the weigh !). No problem to refund ,I "just" have to send back the paramotor (I went 400km from home to take the paramotor at my dealer's shop, and let the packaging there ... Back home, I have to make my own packaging,and pay for transport !). They said they did not really understand my reaction ... but accepted to cancel all. I'm fully disapointed ; still can't understand such a situation. I hope it will end quickly now. I do my best to send the material tomorrow ... and wait for my money back. Also hope the specification sheet will be updated not to mislead anyone anymore. Thank you for the help and advices. I will post to confirm all has well finished. JC

Maybe you're right for the harness : 2.9kg ... For the fuel, it's really empty, just the carburator and pipes cant contain a little, so about less than 100g. I made new measurements to be sure : lowest =32,1 ;average = 32,5 kg If minus 3kg for harness and fuel = more than 29 kg. Still far from 24.6 kg ! Most of all, we know that all are lying a little about weights ; but when you argue with "1.4 kg lighter" for the special edition, you are expected to be more serious . I think such a precision face to such a difference is mislead.

Hi all, I didn't see this post before ... not sure to understand ! My problem : I just recieved my Compact special edition yesterday, and as it seemed heavy, I weighed it : 33,2kg dry ! It is said to have a weigh of 26-1.4=24,6kg dry ... How such a mistake can exist ? Looking for explainations ... My back can't stand for such a weigh ... I'll never fly it. My dream becomes a nightmare ! What do you think of it ? JC

It was a joke, first, ... but why not use an automatic translator (I guess you use google at the moment, I often do so, it's not bad). I'm just afraid it can be hard to install for so few use ... I like when I make a little effort of langage to join an English group, it shows how I love GB as much as you can love France ... Let's think about it ... to follow ... JC

Well, do I have to speak French or ... est-ce que je je dois parler en Anglais ??? Is ParamotorClub becoming a french speaking area ??? Congratulations to Simon for the translation .. and thanks to Alan for the complementary information. I'm gonna use personal mail to have a discussion with my French colleague ... but still watching at other answers. see you ' JC

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