poz Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Not too bothered about throwing the thing around, 'cause normally I just end up throwing my dinner around as well....can carrot break a prop? Really bothered about rock solid flight and great glide ratio. Opinions only from those that have knowledge of both, not those that own one and love it. ps, I am able to get a speedster at very low cost, so the Nuc would need to be plenty better. Thanks Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bholleran Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hi, At the moment I am a fair weather flyer and I do not like to be thrown around a lot. I come from a paragliding background and I am quite happy to fly in rough stuff if I feel like it but in general I prefer to take it easy. I had a Nucleon and currently own a speedster. I have flown the Nucleon through the weight range but I have only flown the Speedster at the top end of the range. The only reason I sold the Nucleon was I was offered more money for it afer 1.5 years of use than I originally paid for it So in my opinion the follow were observed. (Comparing the two, not compared to other wings) Nucleon Excellent - Rock solid stable even in very rough air with no user input Very Good - Glide ratio Very Good - Tip steering Excellent - Speed (Trim in and out) Good - Launch and ground handling - Requires the Trim to be set at out 1-2 in light wind and requires a slightly different technique Speedster Good - Stable in rough air - requires active input in very rough air Excellent - Glide Ratio Very Good - Tip Steering - Slightly more responsive than the Nucleon Very Good - Speed (Nuc was marginally faster) Excellent - Launch and Ground Handeling So overall I really liked both and I was happy with both, they are just different. If I had to lose the Speedster my first choice would still be the Nucleon. But if it was a straight choice between the two again (knowing what I know now) I think I would go for the speedster, because of the easy launch \ land and ground handling. It just means that I can get there and fly, I have far less aborted launches. BUT this is at a compromise of the super stablity of the Nucleon. But for me coming from paragliding I am quite happy with that. I am not saying the the speedster is unstable it is just less stable than the nucleon. Because of the financial implication that you have I think the Speedster will do you just fine and you will be happy with it. I hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poz Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hi,At the moment I am a fair weather flyer and I do not like to be thrown around a lot. I come from a paragliding background and I am quite happy to fly in rough stuff if I feel like it but in general I prefer to take it easy. I had a Nucleon and currently own a speedster. I have flown the Nucleon through the weight range but I have only flown the Speedster at the top end of the range. The only reason I sold the Nucleon was I was offered more money for it afer 1.5 years of use than I originally paid for it So in my opinion the follow were observed. (Comparing the two, not compared to other wings) Nucleon Excellent - Rock solid stable even in very rough air with no user input Very Good - Glide ratio Very Good - Tip steering Excellent - Speed (Trim in and out) Good - Launch and ground handling - Requires the Trim to be set at out 1-2 in light wind and requires a slightly different technique Speedster Good - Stable in rough air - requires active input in very rough air Excellent - Glide Ratio Very Good - Tip Steering - Slightly more responsive than the Nucleon Very Good - Speed (Nuc was marginally faster) Excellent - Launch and Ground Handeling So overall I really liked both and I was happy with both, they are just different. If I had to lose the Speedster my first choice would still be the Nucleon. But if it was a straight choice between the two again (knowing what I know now) I think I would go for the speedster, because of the easy launch \ land and ground handling. It just means that I can get there and fly, I have far less aborted launches. BUT this is at a compromise of the super stablity of the Nucleon. But for me coming from paragliding I am quite happy with that. I am not saying the the speedster is unstable it is just less stable than the nucleon. Because of the financial implication that you have I think the Speedster will do you just fine and you will be happy with it. I hope that helps. Thank you so much for this comparison. It's a GEM for me! The financial difference between the two I think will be the deciding factor. Once I've paid for my PAP Thor 200. Cheers Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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